I know Glock cherishes their 'choice of professionals' image but, especially considering that the military of various countries were said to be turning to .22 calibre cloned firearms for early training, it's long puzzled me why Glock doesn't come out with a .22 . To get cross training in that calibre and preserve my own muscle memory and instinctual shooting, I had to buy an M&P 22. Surely I'm not the only person in that situation and Glock is smarter at marketing that to miss such an opportunity?
Why is there no Glock in .22 calibre? Anybody know?
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Beretta sells conversion kits for their 92's.
There's little point in using 22 when it comes to training for combat shooting. Two of the more important aspects are recoil management and sight picture reacquisition - neither of which you learn from 22.
That said, I always recommend new shooters begin with a 22 rifle/handgun because it allows you to practice stance, breathing, grip, sight picture/sight alignment for a very low cost.
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That said, I always recommend new shooters begin with a 22 rifle/handgun because it allows you to practice stance, breathing, grip, sight picture/sight alignment for a very low cost.
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People do that, but I personally don't see the point of paying as much, or nearly as much, for a conversion kit as for a whole new firearm and having two also allows me to keep my heavier calibre intact. And anyway, I like to shoot them both on the same day. It's why I bought the M&P 22 I mentioned, which itself is not entirely satisfactory, performance-wise.
Glock will never release a .22 model because they would have to actually design something. Its only been 30 years since they designed their first and last one.
They've done a lot of refining however, four distinct generations so far. I believe it's what they mean when they refer to 'Glock perfection.'
I spoke to the Glock Canada rep and asked him this question during Glock days at Red Deer Shooting Centre a couple months ago.
He told me there is .22 model in development but it's likely a few years away from hitting the market. The rep told me it's going to be produced in the US and not Austria but that's all the details he knew at this point.
He personally felt that pressure from large US police departments looking for rimfire training options was driving the new .22 Glock model as opposed to civilian demand.
He told me there is .22 model in development but it's likely a few years away from hitting the market. The rep told me it's going to be produced in the US and not Austria but that's all the details he knew at this point.
He personally felt that pressure from large US police departments looking for rimfire training options was driving the new .22 Glock model as opposed to civilian demand.
Glock will never release a .22 model because they would have to actually design something. Its only been 30 years since they designed their first and last one.
Doing it great the first time really stings, eh?
Well, with all due respect, you probably haven't tried the Advantage Arms kit. I bought mine from irunguns.ca in 2013 for about $300 USD, which at that time was about the same as CAN dollars.
I take my Glock 17 g4 to the range regularly with both the 9mm and 22lr barrel/slide and obviously both sets of mags. Swapping between calibers takes literally just a few seconds, and the advantage is that I'm getting trigger control practice on the very same trigger regardless of calibre. Yes, the 22lr version is significantly lighter due to its aluminum slide and lighter magazines, but having the same trigger is totally worth it.
The M&P22 is actually nothing like the M&P 9mm internally because the former is internal hammer fired while the latter is striker fired. I have shot both and the trigger feels quite different to me. Grip and ergonomics may be the same, but that's it. If I were an M&P shooter the M&P22 is the only option, but I chose Glock because I shoot it better.
Most likely reason is simply their image.
Glock is known as a firearm that just works. Period.
.22's.... not so much so. They're the most finicky firearm on the market. So they most likely won't release one till they can make one that will work with ANY ammo out there.
Imagine the video's.. "I bought this Glock, the most reliable name in firearms, and it can't feed these white box no name rounds I bought at Walmart on sale on boxing day... I'll never buy a Glock POS again..." and so on..
When they have one that will work under ALL conditions, with ALL ammo, THEN we'll see one. And not a day sooner. I gave up on Semi .22's myself. I'll stick to my revolver for .22's.
Glock is known as a firearm that just works. Period.
.22's.... not so much so. They're the most finicky firearm on the market. So they most likely won't release one till they can make one that will work with ANY ammo out there.
Imagine the video's.. "I bought this Glock, the most reliable name in firearms, and it can't feed these white box no name rounds I bought at Walmart on sale on boxing day... I'll never buy a Glock POS again..." and so on..
When they have one that will work under ALL conditions, with ALL ammo, THEN we'll see one. And not a day sooner. I gave up on Semi .22's myself. I'll stick to my revolver for .22's.
I disagree. The problem with your idea is it doesn't take into account how varied 22lr ammo is. Velocities and bullet weights are all over the place, and so you either make it function with the weak stuff, at which point the strong stuff is rough on the gun, or it doesn't function with weaker loads at all...
Thanks for the info. It always has been professionals that have driven Glock production.
The M&P 22 externally operates like a striker fired handgun, if you disregard the unnecessary external safety. I'm a practical shooter not a gun smith, and that's what's important to me. The M&P 22 is also quite finicky about the ammo it likes, and since the premium stuff is rarely if ever available right now, using the crappier stuff gives me a lot of practice dealing with misfires, failures to load, failures to eject, and all the rest of the failures. And I should also say it operates like a dream with high velocity, copper plated Federal rounds.
EDIT: And while complaining, I should also grouse about the lack of adjustable back straps for the M&P 22. It does come out as too small for my hand, but I tell myself it's making me more versatile or something. But it's rather typical of S&W to omit that sort of thing, they often don't seem to take their firearms very seriously.
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