My Swiss Collection

Eaglelord17

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Hi all,

Thought I would share with you all my Swiss collection as it stands at this point.


Here is a photo of some Swiss Rifles in Pile Arms. First group consists of a I.G. 1889, I.G. 96/11, and a I.G. 1911. Second group consists of two K31s and a K11.

From the top down, I.G. 1889 (made 1896), I.G. 96/11 (made 1904), I.G. 1911 (made 1915), K11 (made 1914 which is also first year of production for the K11), and K31 (made 1954).

This is a photo showing the difference between the 1889 and 1896 bolt designs (the 1896 was the last bolt design for the Schmidt Rubin series). Note the rear locking lugs on the 1889, and how much longer the bolt is. For ammo please note that it isn't safe to shoot GP-11 through a rifle with a 1889 style bolt. Fortunately there is really only one rifle you will encounter like that (the 1889).

The difference between the 1896 bolt and the K31 bolt. Note how much more compact the K31 bolt is (which allowed much more barrel than the K11 and a longer sight radius).

I intend to update this as I acquire more, however it might be a while as since I acquired the 1889, all the 'easy' to acquire firearms have been bought (next easiest rifle is a 1893 Carbine and there were only 8000 of those made).

Side note, the long rifles are called 'I.G.' or just 'G' which stands for Infantrie Gewehr (Infantry Rifle in German) or just Gewehr (Rifle). The 'K' stands for Karabiner (which means Carbine in German).

When you see dealers selling these firearms, sometimes they have the designation wrong calling all long rifles and carbines K1911s as they have no idea what the actual naming scheme is or how to tell them apart. It is not such a big deal when you buy in person as you can see the firearm, however when you order online be careful it is the model you are looking for (make sure to verify).
 
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This is great! I learned a lot about how to tell the difference between a K11 and a K31. And I learned that I want tiger striping! Thanks.:wave:
Also the other main thing I forgot is the fact that the sights are set much lower for the K31 (100m) as opposed to 300m on all the previous rifles. Much more practical sights for the average shooter in this day and age.
Are they all fully functional ?
All are fully functional.
they are well built rifles indeed. are you shooting any of those ?
I have shot everyone of them except the 1889, which I have plans to shoot. Just acquiring the components at this point.

I forgot to add the dates of the rifles, so I have made a update to the main post as well.
 
We ran out of goats unfortunately. ;)

That's a nice collection.

You need to start adding Vetterlis now, and then to collect Swiss bayonets and frogs.

Here are mine: http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=713

Very nice. Your missing a couple like the rare and elusive 1889/92 spike bayonet. I do have two bayonets the 1918 and a poor 1899 which someone tried to blue and grind a edge on (got it on Ebay but because of the angles of the photos you couldn't see what had been done to it). I have really been lagging behind in bayonet collecting, and I am missing quite a few at this point (need some for my M95, 1907/15, most of these Swiss rifles etc.). I just find it hard to buy them when I can get a bunch of bullets for reloading (which is very addictive I have found to my misfortune) as I know I will use the bullets more than I will the bayonet (I hope).

I am not sure I want to start getting into black powder yet, it does interest me, however at the moment I am really enjoying the 'transitional' early smokeless powder rifles and WWI firearms. Maybe in a couple years I might try them out, my biggest issue being I don't want to get the stuff for black powder shooting and find out I don't like it. If anyone is in the Sault Ste. Marie area and is willing to let me try some black powder shooting I am more than willing to bring some of my odds and ends out to play as well.

Here are some expanded views of the rifles in case anyone is interested.


I.G. 1889

I.G. 96/11 (these originally would have looked like the 1889s until they were updated to the 1911 standard around 1911-1915 area, kinda like the 'Ex-Dragoon' Mosin Nagant concept)

I.G. 1911

K11

K31 note how much less parts there are, and how they have removed the aluminum collar from the design, as they decided they didn't need it.
 
Incredible quality. Can you imagine what you would pay today for similar craftsmenship and materials? Sadly, there are very few people alive today with those types of skills. Nice collection (now add a Swiss Luger and a Swiss M1882 revolver) :)
 
Incredible quality. Can you imagine what you would pay today for similar craftsmenship and materials? Sadly, there are very few people alive today with those types of skills. Nice collection (now add a Swiss Luger and a Swiss M1882 revolver) :)

Ya, they wouldn't be able to sell it for what it would cost to make. I handled a new rifle at the shop the other day and couldnt believe the sloppy bolt and cheap materials and machining. Been a while since I touched a rifle newer than 60 years old ;)
 
Incredible quality. Can you imagine what you would pay today for similar craftsmenship and materials? Sadly, there are very few people alive today with those types of skills. Nice collection (now add a Swiss Luger and a Swiss M1882 revolver) :)

I would love to get into the pistols, however for just one Swiss Luger it would cost more than all my rifles are worth. Oh well, we'll see what happens, as I have been thinking recently it would be pretty cool to have a Luger and I do love things when they are in odd calibers as well.
 
I have a Tag watch and sell Swiss products. They don't mess around with quality. The Swiss make everything they can to the best that they can attain.
 
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