Uberti Cattleman 12 Shot 22lr revolver

Was wondering the same but I think that if it is not a magazine and the gun is manufactured that way your good to go... not sure if that only applies to non-restricted semi's tho...
 
jester3006 said:
Would that be allowed here? I'm thinking prohibited because it holds more than 10 rounds.
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I would think it would be legal here. Its not a magazine capacity issue, because there is no magazine in a revolver. Also its not a semi-auto, as you need to #### the hammer to fire (even on a DA revolver, you need to pull the trigger to rotate the cylinder/#### the hammer, so still not semi-auto. Semi auto means some of the energy from firing the weapon is used to reload/recock the firearm) although I guess that part doesn't matter because handgun magazines are limited to 10 period.

A quick google search has not turned up anyone selling these, but I did find a review by Outdoorhub.ca for it. They are a Canadian website, so one would assume if they are reviewing it then it should be Canadian-legal, but thats no guarantee.
 
I did find a dealer who was willing to bring one in but it would be a 8 month wait. I never thought about 12 shot not being CDN compliant, maybe that's why there is not any around. Who is the Canadian distrubutor for Uberti?
 
Hank Hill said:
John at Wolverine confirmed that this revolver is in fact prohibited due to capacity of the 12 shot cylinder.
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John at Wolverine confirmed that someone with decision-making power on classification or importing of firearms into Canada opined that it is Prohibited. They are _wrong_.

The Prohibited Devices Regulations [long title; SOR/98-462], Part 4 Section 3(1)(b) regulates magazines for *semi-automatic* handguns, and revolvers are not semis.

Nor does the description of a ‘cartridge magazine’ in the Criminal Code S84(1) include the cylinder of a revolver, because a magazine feeds into the chamber of a firearm but a cylinder IS the chamber.
 
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Okay, so I have to jump in on this one. According to the RCMP and their approved PAL instruction program, they state the the maximum capacity of ANY handgun regardless of action type or caliber is 10. In addition, they also refer to the cylinder on a revolver as a magazine when describing types of mags(box, tubular, cylinder). Based on that one would think that a 12 shot revolver would not be permitted in Canada. But again, this is another example of contradiction within.
In fact, the Uberti Cattleman in 22LR with a 12 shot cylinder is classified as Restricted only. It is classed as Restricted in 3 approved barrel lengths(121, 140, 191mm). They are identified with the FRT number 22997-x(x depending on which barrel length).
So, flame away if u wish, but I am quoting their own data.
Hope this helps
dB
 
red_bailey said:
John at Wolverine confirmed that someone with decision-making power on classification or importing of firearms into Canada opined that it is Prohibited. They are _wrong_.

The Prohibited Devices Regulations [long title; SOR/98-462], Part 4 Section 3(1)(b) regulates magazines for *semi-automatic* handguns, and revolvers are not semis.

Nor does the description of a ‘cartridge magazine’ in the Criminal Code S84(1) include the cylinder of a revolver, because a magazine feeds into the chamber of a firearm but a cylinder IS the chamber.
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I would say this is true based on my interpretation.
A cylinder is a chamber, not a magazine.
A revolver is also not semi automatic.
 
daBear said:
Okay, so I have to jump in on this one. According to the RCMP and their approved PAL instruction program, they state the the maximum capacity of ANY handgun regardless of action type or caliber is 10. In addition, they also refer to the cylinder on a revolver as a magazine when describing types of mags(box, tubular, cylinder). Based on that one would think that a 12 shot revolver would not be permitted in Canada. But again, this is another example of contradiction within.
In fact, the Uberti Cattleman in 22LR with a 12 shot cylinder is classified as Restricted only. It is classed as Restricted in 3 approved barrel lengths(121, 140, 191mm). They are identified with the FRT number 22997-x(x depending on which barrel length).
So, flame away if u wish, but I am quoting their own data.
Hope this helps
dB
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So it's already approved in Canada based on actually following the written law and not some lab techs opinion? Cool!

I think the training course interpreting a cylinder as a "magazine" is to simplify explaining operation, not a letter of the law technical interpretation.
 
dirtybarry said:
Being a .22LR with a manually operated action there should be no capacity limit. No?
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well, i'd always understood that ANY form of handgun was limited to 10 rounds, the only loophole being using mags for a caliber other then that for which they where designed.
But i'm not gonna have an internet argument over it, as they tech guy in the lab has someone else to pay his legal bills.
 
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