Would like some opinions from coyote calling members

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Pete G

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My buddy and I both use Fox Pro Hellfire units....We started with Fox Pro Spitfires.
We normally use a rabbit in distress sound. We have had some success, but way more days of not seeing a coyote.
Just about every video that I have seen from just about anywhere seem to use rabbit sounds pretty much full time.
There are more Whitetails in our area now than Snowshoe Hare/ Cottontails.
In this situation, are we better to use more "fawn in distress" sounds than "rabbit in distress" sounds.
Would appreciate hearing form some of our successful callers here on this issue.
 
Pete G said:
Just about every video that I have seen from just about anywhere seem to use rabbit sounds pretty much full time.
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you answered you own question.

if everyone in your area goes out blasting the cottontail distress,the coyotes will get wise
to it and even more so if the get shot at too.

also maybe the yotes have moved on too.

try a couple of yote death screams/howls,hen mute for a while,blast it out again.
then mute for a while then blast out the deer fawn distress.

you are going to have to experiment to call them in.
nothing works all of the time.

yotes are very very smart.

also they might be coming in behind too,getting your scent and doing a runner.

and i never go back to the same place for atleast a week if not more
 
I also have a hellfire, its a loud call so maybe try cutting your volume as well. Most of the yotes I've killed or shot at have been with whitetail young distress, and fawn distress.
 
LOL - I taken a few, but when it comes to calling it tends to be a pitch that can be the game changer. To start the comment above of "They Have to be there to call them in" is the Most important rule in Coyote Calling. If they are not there, You nor any sound is going to bring them in like it or not. 2nd keeping in mind that you have played the wind proper and " You have Right ? " and got to your setup without being detected is the next most important thing. 3rd Requires Taking their temperature with a sound. Starting low volume according to the wind if any, to see if there is any close coyotes. You don't want to Scream at them to start with any sound. In this step I like to use Cottontail distress to start on low and work the volume. I then will start changing it up after that and as well increasing the volume. If they are farther away they are going to need more volume to hear the call. Excitement in a distress call to me is important along with volume. Remember Volume will travel in the open but not so good in thick cover. Changing sounds on the sets at different days is also a good idea. You don't want them to get used to the same sequences everytime you go in to hunt the place in general. 4th Movement is up most important, watch with your eyes and move your head slow. If they catch you at 100 yds or more out they are gone before you see them.

Smart Coyotes will hang out and watch and listen to the caller. They are not coming any closer so you need to be able to take distance shots at times. Hunting Coyotes with snow on the ground is far easier to see the animal. This also helps not to make the coyotes smart at your hunting spots. Only you know your areas and if you can see 90% of the area well when calling you should be ok, but if your hunting on level thick area with no snow, your making them smart. This is the very reason I do not hunt coyotes much before snow falls...

A little tip from my humble opinion, Just because you don't have the animal that the distress is coming from don't mean the Coyotes won't come to it. We do not have very many Jack Rabbits but I have killed more coyotes with that call then any of the 130 calls I have on the unit.

Good Luck Yotein !
 
Adrian J Hare said:
LOL - I taken a few, but when it comes to calling it tends to be a pitch that can be the game changer. To start the comment above of "They Have to be there to call them in" is the Most important rule in Coyote Calling. If they are not there, You nor any sound is going to bring them in like it or not. 2nd keeping in mind that you have played the wind proper and " You have Right ? " and got to your setup without being detected is the next most important thing. 3rd Requires Taking their temperature with a sound. Starting low volume according to the wind if any, to see if there is any close coyotes. You don't want to Scream at them to start with any sound. In this step I like to use Cottontail distress to start on low and work the volume. I then will start changing it up after that and as well increasing the volume. If they are farther away they are going to need more volume to hear the call. Excitement in a distress call to me is important along with volume. Remember Volume will travel in the open but not so good in thick cover. Changing sounds on the sets at different days is also a good idea. You don't want them to get used to the same sequences everytime you go in to hunt the place in general. 4th Movement is up most important, watch with your eyes and move your head slow. If they catch you at 100 yds or more out they are gone before you see them.

Smart Coyotes will hang out and watch and listen to the caller. They are not coming any closer so you need to be able to take distance shots at times. Hunting Coyotes with snow on the ground is far easier to see the animal. This also helps not to make the coyotes smart at your hunting spots. Only you know your areas and if you can see 90% of the area well when calling you should be ok, but if your hunting on level thick area with no snow, your making them smart. This is the very reason I do not hunt coyotes much before snow falls...

A little tip from my humble opinion, Just because you don't have the animal that the distress is coming from don't mean the Coyotes won't come to it. We do not have very many Jack Rabbits but I have killed more coyotes with that call then any of the 130 calls I have on the unit.

Good Luck Yotein !
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Sounds like some very good advice right there....
Best of luck
 
Grizzly Adams said:
fawn in Distress is seasonal, coyotes are smart and not likely to find a fawn in distress this time of year. ;)

Grizz
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Hmmm I've had good luck with fawn in distress calls year round.

Coyotes are smart but they're not that smart if their hungry and they hear a sound that means a possible meal their coming its up to you to see them before they bust you...
 
Is it best to stick with either prey calls,OR coyote calls, or is mixing it up a good idea?
I sometimes start with some coyote calls then a burst of rabbit every ten minutes or so.
Tonight I was out, didn't hear a peep or see anything, when I got back to the farm, tried a coyote locator, they lit right up at the back of the farm
 
I need to try wounded woodpecker more often I even have the older foxpro one winged woodpecker decoy.

Find I mostly use my foxpro jack in the box decoy.
 
if you can get ahold of some of the videos made by randy anderson "calling all coyotes" you will get a lot of information to help you learn the art of calling coyotes. one thing i find helps is to try to get into a mindset of "why" why am i playing that specific sound and why would a coyote come to it? try to paint a audio picture of a real scenario happening in the wild. example. a young female coyote walks into a new area and wants to see who all is out there "female invitation howl" she doesn't hear anyone around so she sits and surveys the area looking for prey or other coyotes. she spots a small cottontail down below and after a short chase she has it "baybee cottontail sound" unbeknownst to her a large male heard her howling and is not happy about her eating his rabbits he runs in from behind her and proceeds to open up a can of whupass "kiyi or pup distress". this is just one of the scenarios that can be thought up. i find it better than sayin the typical rabbit for 2 min wait 5 min then coyote howl then wait 2 min etc etc. nature has no playlist feel free to mix it up.
 
Just one question WTF is a "KI-UTE" LAMO! Got to love our Yankee neighbours
Ruff Roof
Akern. Acorn
Trash. Garbage
Soda. Pop

Same but different lol I notice that our westerners say KI-UTE as well?
 
cdn1canhunt said:
Just one question WTF is a "KI-UTE" LAMO! Got to love our Yankee neighbours
Ruff Roof
Akern. Acorn
Trash. Garbage
Soda. Pop

Same but different lol I notice that our westerners say KI-UTE as well?[/QUOTE]


Around here its close to an even split between ki-ute and ki-yote.

Show me a person that say's ki-yote-E and I'll show you:

a) Someone who spends more time watching coyote hunting on TV than coyote hunting.

b) Someone who just being silly, or is subtly making fun of person (a), or blatantly of TV, videos or Americans in general.

c) Someone who is setting the stage for a roadrunner joke, or says Wile "E" when he's out of fist swinging distance. Nobody likes person (c). He is also likely to be the one to say "Bullwinkle" for moose or "Yogi" for bear.
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Dogleg said:
cdn1canhunt said:
Just one question WTF is a "KI-UTE" LAMO! Got to love our Yankee neighbours
Ruff Roof
Akern. Acorn
Trash. Garbage
Soda. Pop

Same but different lol I notice that our westerners say KI-UTE as well?[/QUOTE]


Around here its close to an even split between ki-ute and ki-yote.

Show me a person that say's ki-yote-E and I'll show you:

a) Someone who spends more time watching coyote hunting on TV than coyote hunting.

b) Someone who just being silly, or is subtly making fun of person (a), or blatantly of TV, videos or Americans in general.

c) Someone who is setting the stage for a roadrunner joke, or says Wile "E" when he's out of fist swinging distance. Nobody likes person (c). He is also likely to be the one to say "Bullwinkle" for moose or "Yogi" for bear.
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Lol.... or "Boolets".....
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