anyone add backup irons to a Kimber rifle ?

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Don't recall seeing a pic of anyone doing this to an 8400/84, Montana, Mountain Ascent, Adirondack et all.

Would add a touch of weight to some very light weight rifles though.

Was just curious more than anything.

If you "just had to have em" what would you install for irons on these rifles?
 
Adirondack with skinner sights as a primary would be a nifty "stalking rifle"

I bet he has made them before and if not I'm sure he would.
 
For what it would likely end up costing, a spare scope and mounted quick-detach rings would be a much better backup.
 
A shortened Ruger in 35 Welen with NEGC front sight and rear peep, Mcmillan stock. Not even close to being as light and probably cost more than doing some mods to an 84L Montana in 30-06 like the original plan was. But it works and happy with it for now. ;)

 
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^ looks good. NECG sights?

I did a similar thing with a tikka t3 .338 WM but could not bring myself to shorten the barrel and drop the weight more.

An iron sighted medium bore might be a better rifle for general hunting in the rocky mountains than some Easterners may think. With all due respect to our Eastern Fudd brothers of course.
 
I would really be interested in knowing how many hunters with "back up" iron sights ever shoot their rifles with the irons before they go hunting.
 
Cleftwynd said:
I have quite often, in fact my Parker Hale 270 isn't even wearing a scope right now.
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That is not what I am referring to...

I personally know of several hunters who insist that their rifles have "back up" iron sights, but mount a scope and never shoot the irons... they have back up irons that have never been tested or zeroed... but it was "essential" to have them.
 
That was kind of my point HC, I practice with them and use them. I am a firm believer in knowing how to shoot with irons proficiently. I remount the scopes then they are ready for hunting. From time to time I remove a scope and practice with the irons in case I ever need or want to use them while on a hunt.
 
crazy_davey said:
A shortened Ruger in 35 Welen with NEGC front sight and rear peep, Mcmillan stock. Not even close to being as light and probably cost more than doing some mods to an 84L Montana in 30-06 like the original plan was. But it works and happy with it for now. ;)

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What is the color of that stock ?

Simple brown ?
 
Ardent and I were talking about this a couple of days ago, actually.

If I wanted to add sights to a Kimber:

If its already got a threaded muzzle, great. If not, I'd get the muzzle threaded.

Then I'd open Solidworks and design a thread-on front sight base like a Ruger Scout. It would have a 3/8 dovetail for Skinner front blades (http://www.skinnersights.com/front_sights_5.html) and a "pinch" at the bottom where a couple of #6 screws keep the base from unthreading. This would take maybe 25 minutes to design and detail. I'd get it made by my hunting buddy who owns a precision CNC machine shop.

I'd put Warne bases on the rifle, and go to the LGS and pick out a weaver-type ring with a solid base (no vertical slit). I'd have the shop machine most of the meat away, and add a drilled and tapped hole for a Skinner Lo-Pro sight (http://www.skinnersights.com/lo-pro_sight_7.html)

And I'd be done!
 
Cleftwynd said:
That was kind of my point HC, I practice with them and use them. I am a firm believer in knowing how to shoot with irons proficiently. I remount the scopes then they are ready for hunting. From time to time I remove a scope and practice with the irons in case I ever need or want to use them while on a hunt.
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I suspect that you are in the minority...

I am not talking about those that hunt with iron sight rifles... I know many of those... and they do practice and zero their rifles. I find it ironic though that many who insist on "back up" irons, intending to scope the rifle, never even check that the iron sights are zeroed.
 
hoytcanon said:
I would really be interested in knowing how many hunters with "back up" iron sights ever shoot their rifles with the irons before they go hunting.
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I have drop data for irons and scope on my rifles with both. Both confirmed at appropriate intervals out to distance.

Know full well why you ask this question however. The lack of knowledge the "average" hunter has of his tools is scary.
 
crazy_davey said:
A shortened Ruger in 35 Welen with NEGC front sight and rear peep, Mcmillan stock. Not even close to being as light and probably cost more than doing some mods to an 84L Montana in 30-06 like the original plan was. But it works and happy with it for now. ;)

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Very nice !! NEGC make good stuff.
The Skinner Sights suggestion above is also a good one. Forgot about those guys.
 
hoytcanon said:
I suspect that you are in the minority...

I am not talking about those that hunt with iron sight rifles... I know many of those... and they do practice and zero their rifles. I find it ironic though that many who insist on "back up" irons, intending to scope the rifle, never even check that the iron sights are zeroed.
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I see your point now.

Guess I never really considered that. Now that I think about it, it never made sense to me that so many rifles came with irons, as 99.9% of the people that buy them mount a scope and never look back. Guess that's why so many used rifles have the rear sight removed, and the front hood is missing.
 
Bartledan said:
Ardent and I were talking about this a couple of days ago, actually.

If I wanted to add sights to a Kimber:

If its already got a threaded muzzle, great. If not, I'd get the muzzle threaded.

Then I'd open Solidworks and design a thread-on front sight base like a Ruger Scout. It would have a 3/8 dovetail for Skinner front blades (http://www.skinnersights.com/front_sights_5.html) and a "pinch" at the bottom where a couple of #6 screws keep the base from unthreading. This would take maybe 25 minutes to design and detail. I'd get it made by my hunting buddy who owns a precision CNC machine shop.

I'd put Warne bases on the rifle, and go to the LGS and pick out a weaver-type ring with a solid base (no vertical slit). I'd have the shop machine most of the meat away, and add a drilled and tapped hole for a Skinner Lo-Pro sight (http://www.skinnersights.com/lo-pro_sight_7.html)

And I'd be done!
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You have been reading my mind Bartledan. Last night when I posted this was thinking there has got to be a way to take advantage of the threaded barrel for a front sight.
 
madashell said:
You have been reading my mind Bartledan. Last night when I posted this was thinking there has got to be a way to take advantage of the threaded barrel for a front sight.
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The first thing to sort out is the rear sight, because it will control the height of the front sight.

Just had a maybe better idea. Drill and tap the rear base itself. I'm not sure how that would work out... Warne is my go to, but all their stuff is powder metal, and might not take a drill and tap operation well.

I've got a drawer full of extra stuff. Maybe I'll drag some in to the shop, and see what happens.
 
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