Decided to take the plunge (375 H&H) Now which rifle should I buy? Updated page 92

Hey OP, just perusing the EE and there is a new posting of a Sako A V in 375 with dies brass and scope..........jump on it. They are beautiful rifles and the price isn't real stupid. I have 2 Sakos in 375 and I highly recommend the old 2 lug ones like the one advertised there.
 
Check out the .375 H&H Magnum website.
http://webpages.charter.net/375magnum/index.htm

I have owned 2 .375 H&H sako's, a Fiberclass and a wood stock. Both actions broke. Thankfully when I was not hunting or something hunting me. The spring that retains the bolt guide broke and the guide slid ahead and blocked the bolt from opening. The other rifle, the rear band on the bolt broke making it inoperable and had to be cut in pieces with a dremel to remove the bolt. But that's Ok Mr. Griz you just sit down and have a few salmon while you wait, and you mr. Buff go eat some of that nice green grass over yonder, and take Cecil with you and show him that heard of antelope, and you Dumpy enough of that trumpeting in my ear , I'm trying to concentrate, hey any of you guys know if there is a machine shop close by! I don't now and never will own another large caliber Sako again. I do own a few A1 's and L461's that have never broke and I've never been charged by a gopher.
By the way ,I have loaded 6 down and one in the barrel of a CZ550 .375 H&H.
 
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Check out the .375 H&H Magnum website.
http://webpages.charter.net/375magnum/index.htm

By the way ,I have loaded 6 down and one in the barrel of a CZ550 .375 H&H.

They sure do hold a lot of boolits.........

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Check out the .375 H&H Magnum website.
http://webpages.charter.net/375magnum/index.htm

I have owned 2 .375 H&H sako's, a Fiberclass and a wood stock. Both actions broke. Thankfully when I was not hunting or something hunting me. The spring that retains the bolt guide broke and the guide slid ahead and blocked the bolt from opening. The other rifle, the rear band on the bolt broke making it inoperable and had to be cut in pieces with a dremel to remove the bolt. But that's Ok Mr. Griz you just sit down and have a few salmon while you wait, and you mr. Buff go eat some of that nice green grass over yonder, and take Cecil with you and show him that heard of antelope, and you Dumpy enough of that trumpeting in my ear , I'm trying to concentrate, hey any of you guys know if there is a machine shop close by! I don't now and never will own another large caliber Sako again. I do own a few A1 's and L461's that have never broke and I've never been charged by a gopher.
By the way ,I have loaded 6 down and one in the barrel of a CZ550 .375 H&H.



and the guide slid ahead and blocked the bolt from opening
well that just confuses me .. the bolt guides on a Sako all extend to the bolt handle/root afaik so they extend through the action bridge cutout that is provided for the right/bottom bolt lug at all times .... I dont believe that the bridge has enough tolerance to allow the guide to slide around to a 12 o'clock position ... and is always retained in the 3 o'clock position regardless of the bolt handle/lug orientation... in this position it is hard to imagine that the guide could slide forward to impede the bolt from opening as it would be prevented from doing so by the right action lug abutment...wouldn't it? What model Sako was it .. do you recall?



PS .. the link on .375H&H .. section dealing with available rifles was pretty sketchy and somewhat misleading wrt to ZKK602's ... doubt if the author was very familiar with the 602 features/benefits or the available models etc
 
well that just confuses me .. the bolt guides on a Sako all extend to the bolt handle/root afaik so they extend through the action bridge cutout that is provided for the right/bottom bolt lug at all times .... I dont believe that the bridge has enough tolerance to allow the guide to slide around to a 12 o'clock position ... and is always retained in the 3 o'clock position regardless of the bolt handle/lug orientation... in this position it is hard to imagine that the guide could slide forward to impede the bolt from opening as it would be prevented from doing so by the right action lug abutment...wouldn't it? What model Sako was it .. do you recall?



PS .. the link on .375H&H .. section dealing with available rifles was pretty sketchy and somewhat misleading wrt to ZKK602's ... doubt if the author was very familiar with the 602 features/benefits or the available models etc

When in battery, the guide rib has nothing in front of it and having the leaf spring retainer fold in half and let the guide rib move ahead into the receiver ring was a problem,

Stoeger had an update kit with a new guide rib that used a leaf spring retinaer on both (not just the front) collar and also had lightening mill cuts. I've seen two failures, but admittedly were on lightweight magnums that were shot a lot.
 
When in battery, the guide rib has nothing in front of it and having the leaf spring retainer fold in half and let the guide rib move ahead into the receiver ring was a problem,

Stoeger had an update kit with a new guide rib that used a leaf spring retinaer on both (not just the front) collar and also had lightening mill cuts. I've seen two failures, but admittedly were on lightweight magnums that were shot a lot.

when in battery ... wouldnt the lug abutments be in front of the guide?? In which case how could it move forward ... where would it go? I do not mean the bolt lugs ... the abutments...

btw what model(s) are we talking about??

Woohh ... gotcha!! now I understand!!! thanks had a big brain cramp here!


BTW -- thanks for that info - I have owned Sako's and BRNO's (including .375H&H in both makes) for years and had never heard of that problem with guides on the Sako's ... interesting!!! .. Well more reason to buy a ZKK602 ... although I am pretty impressed with the Sako full stock I have in .375H&H and dont intend to sell it to soon! nor the BRNO's fwiw
 
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So i toom the punge and picked up a voere sporter in 375 H&H . Nice looking gun. Yet to use it yet. Looking forward to it, but a little cautious about the recoil in an 8lb gun
 


I have hunted with this one since the 1970s.
Countless other rifles have come and gone but its here to stay, about the only thing that it hasn't hunted are Rabbits.
 
So i toom the punge and picked up a voere sporter in 375 H&H . Nice looking gun. Yet to use it yet. Looking forward to it, but a little cautious about the recoil in an 8lb gun

Fire your first rounds off-hand, and you'll wonder what all the fuss was about. Before you know it, you'll be shooting that rifle from supported field positions, maybe even prone.
 
budget wise, its not so much that I don't have enough money to go big, its that my wife and I have an understanding, that we only get x amount of dollars per week to spend on our hobbies and toys. That being said, I appreciate what you guys are saying about getting something a little nicer. Hunting and range season are a few months off, so I might try to hold off for a couple months until the dollar makes a bit of a recovery and I maybe then I will be able to splurge a little more on something like a SAKO. If not, I am thinking that a CZ is starting to sound pretty good.
Thank all for your replies.

I have Sako Kodiak and like it a lot.
 
So i toom the punge and picked up a voere sporter in 375 H&H . Nice looking gun. Yet to use it yet. Looking forward to it, but a little cautious about the recoil in an 8lb gun

Fire your first rounds off-hand, and you'll wonder what all the fuss was about. Before you know it, you'll be shooting that rifle from supported field positions, maybe even prone.

Boomer is correct.... I just got one courtesy of Hoytcanon and, while I haven't shot it from a bench yet, I found the recoil very mild from a standing position..... Mind you, it's an RSM and likely a pound or so heavier than yours.....


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