Info about new ATT rules

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I know there must be other threads on the new ATT rules, but I did a search and it came up with nothing. There is one sticky post on ATT and what you need to know but it is all from the old rules. Can someone please explain the new rules or possibly provide a link to this info? Thanks
 
this was what I put up here on christmas eve. the 6 conditions below don't need att/satt, others still do.

1. Transportation of restricted firearms and/or prohibited handguns (12(6.1) of the Firearms Act) possessed for the purpose of target practice to and from all shooting clubs and ranges approved under section 29 of the Firearms Act.
2. Transportation of restricted firearms and/or prohibited firearms to and from any place a peace officer, firearms officer of Chief Firearms Officer (CFO) is located for verification, registration or disposal in accordance with the Firearms Act or Part III of the Criminal Code.
3. Transportation of restricted firearms and/or prohibited firearms to and from a business that holds a licence authorizing it to repair or appraise prohibited or restricted firearms.
4. Transportation of restricted firearms and/or prohibited firearms to and from a gun show.
5. Transportation of restricted firearms and/or prohibited firearms to a port of exit, in order to take them outside Canada and from a port of entry.
6. Transportation of newly acquired restricted firearms and/or prohibited firearms from the place of acquisition to the licence holder's dwelling house or other place authorized by the CFO.

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/n...-09-eng.htm#a2 (Q14)




jagermaster said:
I know there must be other threads on the new ATT rules, but I did a search and it came up with nothing. There is one sticky post on ATT and what you need to know but it is all from the old rules. Can someone please explain the new rules or possibly provide a link to this info? Thanks
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Here is what I found by calling the CFP. My current PAL was 4 years old and on the face read 'Standard conditions are attached to this license'. I called and asked about the new ATT and was told I needed to request a free replacement PAL. I received this by mail within 5 days. The new PAL reads 'Standard and non-standard conditions are attached to this license'. Along with the new PAL came the new paper 'Conditions - Possession and Acquisition' which state the special conditions above and also directs you to, 'Please detach the license conditions printed below and keep them with you license at all times.'

So if you have an older but not yet expired PAL, call the CFP and request your free replacement.
 
Correct.... You will also get a slip that has all of the ATT info that is listed in post 2..... You have to carry that along with your other docs when transporting a restricted.....
 
Other folks have been told that their existing RPALs are just fine, and there is no reason to get a replacement. The conditions are electronically attached.
 
And the crappy part is with the new license you need it says i have to carry the paper as well!
This was supposed to rid me of the paper!

I didnt even ask for a new license, they just replaced it on my next restricted purchase.
 
From the CFC website-

ATTs become a condition of a licence for certain routine and lawful activities.

Q13: What do the changes to ATTs mean?
A13: As of September 2, 2015, individuals with restricted or prohibited firearms may be eligible to have conditions attached to a firearms licence for certain routine and lawful transportation purposes.

Q14: I have a valid ATT to transport a firearm to and from a shooting club or range for the purpose of target practice. Will ATT conditions be attached to my firearms licence automatically?
A14: Yes. As of September 2, 2015, if you are licenced and possess a valid ATT to transport a firearm to and from a shooting club or range for the purposes of target practice, you will obtain, as a condition of your licence, the activities listed below.

These licence conditions authorize the transport of restricted and/or prohibited firearms registered to the licence holder within their province of residence by a route that, in all circumstances, is reasonably direct for the specific indicated purposes.

Transportation of restricted firearms and/or prohibited handguns (12(6.1) of the Firearms Act) possessed for the purpose of target practice to and from all shooting clubs and ranges approved under section 29 of the Firearms Act.
Transportation of restricted firearms and/or prohibited firearms to and from any place a peace officer, firearms officer of Chief Firearms Officer (CFO) is located for verification, registration or disposal in accordance with the Firearms Act or Part III of the Criminal Code.
Transportation of restricted firearms and/or prohibited firearms to and from a business that holds a licence authorizing it to repair or appraise prohibited or restricted firearms.
Transportation of restricted firearms and/or prohibited firearms to and from a gun show.
Transportation of restricted firearms and/or prohibited firearms to a port of exit, in order to take them outside Canada and from a port of entry.
Transportation of newly acquired restricted firearms and/or prohibited firearms from the place of acquisition to the licence holder's dwelling house or other place authorized by the CFO.
Q15: I do not have a valid ATT to transport a firearm to and from a shooting club or range for the purpose of target practice. Will ATT conditions be attached to my firearms licence automatically?
A15: No. If you do not possess a valid ATT to transport a firearm to and from a shooting club or range for the purposes of target practice as of September 2, 2015, you will not get the transportation purposes added as a condition to your firearms licence.

See next question for additional information.

Q16: When will the conditions be added to my licence, since I don't have a valid ATT for transport to and from a shooting club or range for the purpose of target practice?
A16: If you do not possess a valid ATT to transport a firearm to and from a shooting club or range for the purposes of target practice, you will get the relevant transportation purposes added as a condition to your firearms licence when you:

acquire your first restricted firearm;
acquire additional restricted or prohibited firearms;
request a new ATT during valid period of licence;
request a replacement ATT during valid period of licence; or,
renew your firearms licence with restricted and/or prohibited privileges.
Once the conditions have been added to the firearms licence, you are no longer required to request additional ATTs unless it is for a purpose other than those that have been added as a condition to the licence.

Depending on the purpose for which you acquire firearms, you either get all six conditions added to your licence as a condition (if you have acquired your firearms for target shooting) or you get just five conditions, excluding transport to and from an approved range (if you have acquired your firearms for collection purposes).

Q17: I have a paper ATT. Is it still valid?
A17: Yes. Existing paper ATTs are still valid.

Q18: Since ATTs will be a condition on a licence, and I currently have a valid paper ATT, will I receive a new licence card to reflect these changes?
A18: No. Existing paper ATTs remain valid until expiry. In addition, as of September 2, 2015, if you are a licensed client possessing a valid ATT to transport a firearm to and from a shooting club or range for the purposes of target practice, you have, as a condition on your licence, the six transportation conditions.

Q19: I don't have an ATT and would like to acquire one. What do I do?
A19: Call the CFP toll-free information line at 1-800-731-4000 to request an ATT.

Q20: Can an ATT that is "attached to" a firearms licence be revoked?
A20: Yes. CFOs still have the authority to revoke an ATT.

Q21: If I buy a restricted firearm for the first time after this change comes into force, will I be issued a new PAL card with the ATT conditions attached?
A21: Yes. Upon acquisition of your first restricted firearm, once a CFO confirms the acquisition purpose of the firearm, the CFP will issue you a new licence card indicating that special conditions are attached.

Q22: Once the ATT as a condition on the licence comes into force, will I receive all the conditions for transporting firearms on a piece of paper, as well as those same conditions being placed on my licence?
A22: If a licence card is reprinted as a result of the conditions being placed on the licence, you will receive a new licence card. On the card carrier (for the licence card) the normal standard conditions (i.e. that you must inform the CFO when you move or change your name) will be listed. The ATT conditions will also be listed on the card carrier under Special Conditions.
 
Thanks everyone for your informative replies.... especially kens. I'm very surprised that I didn't get sent a new card or even any notices in the mail regarding any of the changes to transport laws and conditions.
 
I do not think they are actually sending out new cards to everyone.

I bought 2 restricted in January, they just told me they added the ATT conditions to my license. I have never seen a new card in the mail yet.
 
I recently upgraded my pal to an rpal, so I didn't own any restricted firearms at that time. I'm now in the process of acquiring my first restricted. I called today for clarification, was told that I would be getting a new license card in the mail with both standard and non-standard conditions attached.
My wife already owned a restricted firearm when the law changed. She won't be getting a new card til her old card (and the ATT she currently holds) expire unless she requests it.

I was also told by the CFO that I was required to forward proof of my club membership to them when it renewed annually. That stems from people joining a club once every 5 years to renew their RPAL, if I had to guess.

I think the new laws are an improvement, obviously. Having said that, there's a bit of confusion in some circles over what the changes mean and what to expect.
Ken's post makes perfect sense to me today, after spending 10 minutes in a detailed conversation with the CFO office this afternoon. Very helpful pleasant people, patient with newbies like myself.
If all the provinces have staff like that, I'd recommend calling for clarification if you have any unresolved questions.
 
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