CRF vs Push Feed

Bottom line - don't choose your rifle based on CRF vs PF alone.

The most important thing is to not buy something awful (such as a Remington 710) and to make sure the rifle fits you well, is in good condition, and that you get good quality mounts and a decent optic.

Do not buy based on the lowest price. Look at the options that are at least one step up form the lowest price tier, shoulder them all for fit, then WALK AWAY. Do some internet research on the few models you thought fit OK to make sure the mechanism is reliable and gets good reviews, then go back and buy informed.
 
Cleftwynd said:
One reason I like CRF is there is no spring loaded plunger pushing the cartridge against one side of the chamber, not that it really matter. Also it's nice being able to unload a blind magazine easily with control of the cartridges without chamberings them.
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My push feeds don't have a spring loaded plunger.
 
All I know is that I like guns that are the best of both worlds. I'm building custom Ross, which is CRF but has the advantages of a push-feed, ie single loading without extractor issues.
 
i found it interesting about CRF and PF debate. what i found is as a guide that all the problems that i ever had was with rem 700. double stroke with short actions and more than once in each of my three fall seasons. safety locked again more than once in each season (if you look at the safety: it is prone to get moisture in then will freeze or getting pin needles in).

my first PF rifle was a rem 700 in 30-06 after my first season and without even fired i sold it.

the rem 700 is the most sold actions and by far and it may be an operator issue but when you see as a repeated mood and a constant pattern there is a problem. Douglas is a good man but my experiences with rem 700 are far from his positive ones.
 
I have a few CRF action rifles, mostly based on Commercial mauser actions.

However, the vast majority of my rifles are M700 Remingtons, which, of course are PF.

Like Douglas, after a huge number of fired rounds at targets and in the field, I have come
to trust the PF implicitly as well.

Either works just fine, and it is more a matter of personal preference than any true practical value.

Regards, Dave.
 
I prefer a CRF big game rifle but I have plenty of pf too. Both can work perfectly and both can fail.

Many modern CRF rifles will close on a chanbered round.
 
It only adds flavor to the discussion if a gun owner is biased. Nothing is worse than that everyone agrees...

My dream rifle would be 257 Weatherby in a CRF, that would be so cool.
 
Gatehouse said:
I prefer a CRF big game rifle but I have plenty of pf too. Both can work perfectly and both can fail.

Many modern CRF rifles will close on a chanbered round.
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yes like my cz 550. half the time the round would pop out in front of the claw and push feed just fine. i dont like crf although my newish m70 works great. i think the howa idea is great with the push feed and old time 1 piece bolt and forged receiver. only once my m70 pushed a round ahead of the claw and then it wouldnt drop out to refeed it it wasnt stuck but the rifle was down anyway. i havent tried my other rifles upside down but my push feed m70 feeds just fine upside down. i think the push feed is more reliable and a lefty hasnt got his right eye lined up with that extractor ready to blow off.
 
I've owned a few push feed rifles and never did care for them. . My own preference is CRF. . . I like to see the cartridge slide up and the case head slip into the head of the bolt and extractor lip and the bullet guided over the coned breech into the chamber. . . No problem with pushing a single round down into the magazine it's become habit. . Owned a post 64 M70 push feed , a number of years back, and did the same with that gun. When I find a rifle I can't do without it has to be CRF.
 
TrevorMack said:
I am just curious as to what people prefer and why. Pros and cons of each.
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There are other things that I look for/matter more to me in a hunting rifle like detachable magazine, single set trigger, light weight, smooth action, fit and finish, etc. CRF or push feed is near the bottom of my list of needs
 
I like Crf, but that is based on my love of Ruger actions...... Have owned several 700's in push feed and never an issue..... But the decline in quality sends me elsewhere..... I am big on familiarity, so I try to own as many rifles in my action of choice as I can..... It's really nice to hunt the same action and safety regardless of caliber or prey......

That being said, I still have a rem 799 in push feed in .223 because it is a tack driver and it's hard to get another .223 in 1:9 twist....
 
I have had both, and both have worked flawlessly. I really do not see all the hype in CRF. The issue of single round feed with CRF is/was a pain in the a$$. My Kimber 8400 which is CRF will single load from the box without issue. All my newer Win M-70's had to have some adjustment made to get them to single feed smoothly. After those adjustments were made I was happy.
Don't let this issue be a determining factor in whether to purchase a rifle or not.
 
Superbrad said:
Curious as to why the PF guys really feel the need for that extra round...... Seems odd in a hunting rifle..
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I have both...love both...and can get 5 rounds in each. The m70 featherweight will take an extra in the mag but won't go all the way in... But it will go in far enough to go under the extractor and will pop up and under it when you close the bolt. However, I usually only put 3 rounds in my rifles anyway
 
You can sometimes chamber a CRF on a round in the chamber by pressing inwards on the external extractor.

I don't do it but judging from the slight curve on my 602's extractor someone might have.

If I was in a bad situation where an extra round seemed like a good idea I'd do it.
 
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