Rare one up for sale...

pcvando said:
This. Is up to you...

I like Yugo. Some like Russian. Some like Chinese.

As far as I know, (I have actually seen all of these in person) these are the production countries that exist:

Russian
Chinese
Yugoslavian
Romanian
Albanian
Polish
North Korea
North Vietnamese
East German

And most countries on that list has about a half-dozen models, not to mention all the Chinese ones built for the US market, such as farmers friend, DPR "designated precision rifle" etc.
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Production is Russia, China, Yugoslavia, Romania, Albania, N. Korea, N. Vietnam, and East German. Rumours of Bangladesh, but I haven't seen much evidence other than rumours. Bangladesh is licenced by the Chinese to make Type 81s under the model name BD-08, so there may be some merit to the SKS having been licenced to them.

The Polish guns are Russian arsenal guns refurbished with Polish stocks. The Polish stocks are unique in themselves.
 
Bangladesh SKS. May just be Chinese contract guns.

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Russian SKS in Polish stock.

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fenceline said:
Bangladesh SKS. May just be Chinese contract guns.
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Interesting. That I didn't know. I would be inclined to believe they may have made their own, as they do make the Type 81 copy.

My favorite Polish SKS, the one I actually saw in real was almost white in color:

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^ Those stock butts look pretty worn eh...
 
fenceline said:
Parade duty isn't kind.

I'd like to see close up pictures of those rifles. I don't expect many foreigners get to see them up close enough for the pictures I want.
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Yes I got lucky to see one, let alone touch it.

You should ask Martin at CA. He might be able to try and get pics. Only thing is I hear Poland doesn't like selling off anything. It was hard enough for all those Polish .22 Mosin trainers to be let go. They really got F'd by US importers. Poland got squat for them.
 
Bendeco said:
So an sks isn't just an sks. Which country made the best quality sks?
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It is fairly subjective.

Russian ones have the best machine work usually. The arctic birch stocks are neutral. The laminate stocks are fairly nice.

Chinese ones have the best crowns, usually nice and recessed. Some of them put up better groups. Some factories have really nice machine work while others, not so much. Wood is junk.

Yugo ones are the most visually appealing other than the Polish refurbs. Yugoslavian arms quality is hit and miss learning toward very good.

North Korean ones give instant orgasms. Just add unobtanium.

East German and Romanian examples are pretty rare. I've never handled either one.

Albanian ones are the most unique.
 
To be fair the Romanians are rare here but more common in the US. Besides the origin countries there are some unique guns from contract nations. There are some really neat rack marks on Chinese and Russian guns that found their way to the middle east and then out to North America.
 
fenceline said:
To be fair the Romanians are rare here but more common in the US. Besides the origin countries there are some unique guns from contract nations. There are some really neat rack marks on Chinese and Russian guns that found their way to the middle east and then out to North America.
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Yeah, they come up for sale in the US quite often. I don't get down there much though.
 
Albanians are crap?

Ok... The late guns from 1978 were sometimes rough. But who here has a 1967, 68, 69?

Hmmmmmmm

FYI, Bangladesh never made the sks. The chinese set them up to make the T56 AK47 NOT the T56 semiauto.
 
Loose-Cannon said:
Albanians are crap?

Ok... The late guns from 1978 were sometimes rough. But who here has a 1967, 68, 69?

Hmmmmmmm

FYI, Bangladesh never made the sks. The chinese set them up to make the T56 AK47 NOT the T56 semiauto.
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Also, it has nothing to do with the date. (actually it might, I have to see some earlier examples.)

I have held and shot most, and the Albanian ones just used thin wood. Feels light and poor quality, and handguard feels very fragile. I could crush it with my hand.

I think they (at least, the ones I handled) are the worst made ones.

That being said, they are still rare and collectible.
 
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pcvando said:
No, this is wrong. There were North Vietnamese made SKS rifles. There are many photos and lots of proof.
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By proof do you mean NVA markings on the receiver cover? Because I believe LC is saying that those are acceptance marks, and not manufacture marks.

As in it is theorized on some boards that the NVA sks was actually produced in China and exported to the NVA.
 
I'm sorry, but you simply have no idea what your talking about.

1) show me an nva and I'll show you a property marked chinese.

2) Albanians are Beech wood... Same as Romanian and although Birch looks fantastic, its much like Balsa and one of the cheapest crap woods you could choose. Beech is nearly twice as dense/durable.

3) In many instances the year makes all the difference... Think milling marks on wartime mosins. I have a 69 and a 78....
 
Loose-Cannon said:
I'm sorry, but you simply have no idea what your talking about.

1) show me an nva and I'll show you a property marked chinese.

2) Albanians are Beech wood... Same as Romanian and although Birch looks fantastic, its much like Balsa and one of the cheapest crap woods you could choose. Beech is nearly twice as dense/durable.

3) In many instances the year make all the difference... Think milling marks on wartime mosins. I have a 69 and a 78....
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Interesting. It would appear that new research has come to light, especially I read some new publications online.

That being said, I am still not 100% convinced.

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The "cheap feeling" is my opinion. You may have had different experiences, and that great. I would love to handle some more, it might change my opinion.
 
fenceline said:
By proof do you mean NVA markings on the receiver cover? Because I believe LC is saying that those are acceptance marks, and not manufacture marks.

As in it is theorized on some boards that the NVA sks was actually produced in China and exported to the NVA.
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I meant that there is no doubt they were marked by NVA. Where they were physically made is still being debated online.
 
Loose-Cannon said:
2) Albanians are Beech wood... Same as Romanian and although Birch looks fantastic, its much like Balsa and one of the cheapest crap woods you could choose. Beech is nearly twice as dense/durable.
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Beech and birch are both hard woods, both can grow in the same area with the birch further extending north. Both cannot, by far, be compared to Balsa which is a light low density material.
 
I said 'like'... As in its softer then beech in comparison. If you want to be technical about it. They are all hardwoods... Including Balsa

"Being a deciduous angiosperm, balsa is classified as a hardwood despite the wood itself being very soft. It is the softest commercial hardwood. The trees are harvested after six to 10 years of growth."

Why would both species growing in the same areas have anything to do with density??

Birch is much softer then beech.... Facts are facts. Do your density research.
 
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