Mid-range rifles....

NL-Hunter said:
Look no further than Schultz & Larsen - if you can get on in Canada that is. Have been doing quite a bit of "Research" on these lately... Nice video of the manufacturing process on youtube, definately old school. Fantastic barrels and action is smooth. They do have a web site although developed using 90's technology.

There are usually a few for sale in Canada in 7X61 S&H, been wondering if it could be re-chambered to 7MM RM as it is based on the same case. No facilities around here that could do it ...
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IMHO nobody can best Shultz & Larsen rifle quality.
Yes, they can be re-chambered to 7mm Rem Mag or 7mm Wby but why?
Original chambering is as good and clasic rifle will be no clasic after that conversion.
 
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Over the years I have owned and carried, custom Mausers, H&H, early Brownings, pre-64's, Sakos, M/S, lettered Steyrs, Sauers, Dakotas, and 23 different Coopers, (the Coopers for the most part were all customs with great wood, not all made it to the bush). In the back of my safe I have 3 workhorses, they are not pretty, they have synthetic stocks, teflon coated stainless barreled actions, all made in house, all shoot ragged little groups and exceed factory accuracy guarantee, never had a failure to feed or eject, they are all H-S Precision. I did not buy one H-S new, they were all used, all in excellent condition, and cost between $2000.00 & $2500.00 each, check out the EE they show up from time to time, once they get to these prices they do not seem to go any lower, and their quality is pretty hard to beat.
 
I'd start looking at single shots.

Oh right I already did but be afraid be very very afraid because it is addictive especially when you get single shots that you can swap as many barrels around on and the wife has no idea you have you have just bought another barrel. :)

I have 18 Contender carbine barrels and 4 Prohunter barrels yep she has absolutely no idea... :cool:
 
The whole discussion has had me thnking about what we (or I) consider a "mid range rifle". To me, it's a rifle in the $2,000 to ,$6,000 dollar range. Wouldn't a $50,000 drilling or double be considered "high end"? And the sub $2,000 rifles be considered low end, with the rifles in the category of way under $1,000 being considered as "budget" or at least compared to a bic lighter?

Maybe I am looking at it all wrong and shouldn't consider a European market in the equation.
 
Cleftwynd said:
The whole discussion has had me thnking about what we (or I) consider a "mid range rifle". To me, it's a rifle in the $2,000 to ,$6,000 dollar range. Wouldn't a $50,000 drilling or double be considered "high end"? And the sub $2,000 rifles be considered low end, with the rifles in the category of way under $1,000 being considered as "budget" or at least compared to a bic lighter?

Maybe I am looking at it all wrong and shouldn't consider a European market in the equation.
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Everyone's budget is different and that dictates what they consider low, mid and high. In my college years, a Savage Axis would've been high end!
 
I guess, so if all I can afford is a $2,500 rifle then a Kimber is high end. Or if I want 10 rifles and my budget only allows 10 Savage Axis, makes the Axis high end.

I look at it differently. I can't afford any high end rifles, being $10,000 up to and over $100,000. But I can afford a few mid range and several low range rifles. Mid being coopers, kimbers, Blaser, Mauser, etc... Low being Rem 700's, Ruger MKII's etc....
 
I think it's fair to say that this forum is largely composed of average Joe's, and most would consider a $2500 rifle "higher end". We all know that $2500 doesn't really buy you anything very special anymore, which is sad, but most don't have $5000+ to drop on an heirloom quality firearm. In my opinion, a $2500 firearm is truly mid-range, hence my comment to look at older Tikkas or new SAKO's. There was another good comment made, and that is to look at having a firearm custom made by a gunsmith. For $2500, you can have something pretty special, but without the resale value. Another option to look for a mildly used quality firearm.
 
gunrunner8 said:
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IMHO nobody can best Shultz & Larsen rifle quality.
Yes, they can be re-chambered to 7mm Rem Mag or 7mm Wby but why?
Original chambering is as good and clasic rifle will be no clasic after that conversion.
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I think I will soon have to bite the bullet and start reloading. Would be hard to get brass, but can be made from 7RM.
 
Well for me it is around $3000. The one being retired is a Steyr-Mannlicher Luxus. Great rifle, but +9lbs scoped and ready to go. I've had lots of other stuff come and go Weatherby Mk.V's, Rugers, Remington 700's etc but I always fell back on the Steyr. The others seemed so cheap in comparison. And the Steyr just shoots soooooo well.

I was looking into a custom build. Action like Surgeon or Defiance ~$1900, barrel $500-$600, bottom metal $350 or so, trigger $150-$250, Manners or McMillan stock, $800-$1000 plus gunsmithing. And you are looking at closing in on $5000.
 
It adds up. I've been seriously debating a 300 Wm to be made. Even with a savage action it'll be over 4 grand. I can buy a factory ba savage and have pretty much the same thing for almost half. Puts it into perspective. I might wait to see how the new savage stealth is priced.
As for budgets I consider $1000 and below low $1-2000 mid range $2000-2500 obtainable and over $2500 higher end but I'm still at the point I like to have options so I have a larger number of lower grade guns with a few exceptions
 
Kevan said:
The muzzle brake is removable, a threaded cap is also supplied and it fits so well that you have to look very close to see a seam.
With the brake recoil is about like a 243, without its about like a light load in my 375 so the brake does make a difference recoil-wise.
Accuracy is the same with or without..
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It is far different from M98 which I have. From this picture, I cannot be convinced it is CRF. It is not PF either.

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elker said:
It is far different from M98 which I have. From this picture, I cannot be convinced it is CRF. It is not PF either.
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By most standards, an action doesn't need to have a full length extractor to be considered CRF. If it grabs the case as soon as it leaves the feed lips, it's generally called CRF.

CRF is a lot of hype anyhow. It makes for great internet debates, if nothing else.
 
bearkilr said:
By most standards, an action doesn't need to have a full length extractor to be considered CRF. If it grabs the case as soon as it leaves the feed lips, it's generally called CRF.

CRF is a lot of hype anyhow. It makes for great internet debates, if nothing else.
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Yes, it seems like there is no end to it ?
Having had and have many examples of both, I have to that I'd rather have a push feed that works than a CRF that jams..
 
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