Neck sizing before or after annealing?

I make a point of reading most every article I see on the internet regarding annealing of brass cartridge cases. A certain level of confusion, ignorance and misunderstanding of the problem, the process and the science is expected. But this thread takes the cake.
 
yomomma said:
http://www.6mmbr.com/annealing.html

http://www.sinclairintl.com/GunTech/The-Not-So-Arcane-Art-of-Brass-Annealing/detail.htm?lid=16032

http://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/annealing/

http://www.massreloading.com/annealing.html

The real science

http://bisonballistics.com/articles/the-science-of-cartridge-brass-annealing




sorry was bored
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OK, I made the mistake of saying that the cases are hardened but my method is correct. I don't have the money for this expensive equipment to do it. I really liked the first article you posted here. Thank you for being bored, it helped me to understand more about this. And thank you other dumb asses for criticizing so quickly, I am no expert but this method has worked for me so far.
 
Bigbore 35 said:
OK, I made the mistake of saying that the cases are hardened but my method is correct. I don't have the money for this expensive equipment to do it. I really liked the first article you posted here. Thank you for being bored, it helped me to understand more about this. And thank you other dumb asses for criticizing so quickly, I am no expert but this method has worked for me so far.
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You were wrong, and we're the dumbasses?

You're welcome.
 
And the reason I was so sharp up front is because from my reading and understanding from the 6mmBR article what you were saying is dangerous. If what your saying is gonna be less accurate, I don't care. If someone's gonna blow up, I say something.
 
No that is not true, they sell tools for this procedure so you don't have to use your fingers. Using your fingers may only do nothing to improve your case if you don't heat it enough.
Gunneegoogoo said:
And the reason I was so sharp up front is because from my reading and understanding from the 6mmBR article what you were saying is dangerous. If what your saying is gonna be less accurate, I don't care. If someone's gonna blow up, I say something.
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It is true.

If you overheat the body brass it gets weak and it can fail.

Read the article.

I'm done talking with you. Please don't tell others dangerous things anymore.

D!ckhead out.

Oh, sorry. To you I'm "dumbass". It's claybuster that knows me as d!ckhead.
 
Gunneegoogoo said:
It is true.

If you overheat the body brass it gets weak and it can fail.

Read the article.

I'm done talking with you. Please don't tell others dangerous things anymore.

D!ckhead out.

Oh, sorry. To you I'm "dumbass". It's claybuster that knows me as d!ckhead.
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Maybe you should try listening to people before you criticize. I said thanks to all who criticized me instead of calling YOU out. There were more than you that did but you chimed in. Man are you sensitive.
 
Bigbore 35 said:
IT looks to me that I got into a battle of wit's against an unarmed man. YOU CAN"T OVER HEAT THE BRASS WHILE HOLDING IT. Try it supper man, you will see.
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Please let the guy without "wit's" help you out.....

IT looks to me that I got into [am in] a battle of wit's against an unarmed man. YOU CAN"T [CAN'T] OVER HEAT THE BRASS WHILE HOLDING IT. Try it supper man [Superman], you will see.

....and I think I'd feel, not see. All I'd see is the blisters on the tips of my digits. Since I have an annealer, I won't be having to try this.

You take care Sir.

-J.
 
Only issues I have with your method is that annealing is a time/temperature bases process and your method based on feel has no way of knowing neither time nor temp. Are you really annealing and how repeatable is your process.

But hey, if it works for your needs...

Bigbore 35 said:
And furthermore, my method to annealing was correct and the end result was correct as well.
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This is true dude, I have been doing this, this way and it really isn't rocket science. All I am saying is that to the person who doesn't have a lot of money to spend on fancy equipment, it works good. If you don't heat the brass enough you will not gain anything in accuracy but it will help to soften the brass a little. I was having problems with splitting necks before I started this and it works in my case. PS, I never told anyone to follow my lead, I said it is what I do. So stick that in your gun barrel and fire it, GUNNEEGOOGOO.(loosing the argument so why not pick on spelling errors, what a dumb ass).
yomomma said:
Only issues I have with your method is that annealing is a time/temperature bases process and your method based on feel has no way of knowing neither time nor temp. Are you really annealing and how repeatable is your process.

But hey, if it works for your needs...
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Simplest cheapest repeatable way is to buy a cheap second hand casting pot and a thermometer. Fill it full of lead and heat to 750. Use your watch and dip case up to the shoulder into the lead, time using watch. If you do it with spent primers still in the case you will not get any lead on the inside of the neck. Time in will depend on case type
 
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