Weaver See Thru Rings Advice

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Tjv787

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I'm thinking about getting weaver 1" see thru rings. Does anyone have experience with these. Any negatives or issues with dependability and holding zero?
I'd appreciate some insight, I want to use my iron sights even when a scope is mounted.
Thanks!
Below are the 2 styles I'm interested in.
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I've always thought they were a really bad idea.

They leave the scope sitting really high, which makes it difficult to position your head properly, and your cheek will have poor contact with the stock. Especially noticeable on quick shots, I find it difficult to get a quick sight picture using them.

The next problem is that you're looking through a little tunnel to use the open sights, which reduces their effectiveness. It's not nearly as quick and instinctive as using open sights alone with no obstructions. So you're getting the worst of both worlds there.

Finally I found with very high mounted scopes, because you have to crane your neck to use them, is that the effects of recoil are exaggerated. The rifle seems to roll up more than when you have proper contact between cheek and stock.
 
Every time I see a shooter with them high fangdangled rings I chortle.
For the cost of them and the time spent pizzing around, why not double the
investment and find an old open sighted shooter?
They can be had for a hundred bucks or so and play with it?
Increases your inventory for them boring days of boredom.
 
See through rings are the worst of two worlds. They make both the iron sights and the scope much more awkward to use. Don't go there.
 
What if I have a good cheek riser? Wouldn't that solve the issue with positioning myself effectively for a shot using the scope or the iron sights ?

I want my .308 savage scout 11 to be a jack
Of all trades if it's possible. Iron sights for quick closer shots, but a scope
Readily available for longer shots.
 
Tjv787 said:
What if I have a good cheek riser? Wouldn't that solve the issue with positioning myself effectively for a shot using the scope or the iron sights ?

I want my .308 savage scout 11 to be a jack
Of all trades if it's possible. Iron sights for quick closer shots, but a scope
Readily available for longer shots.
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I would think that if you put on a riser to see the scope well, you will be way too high to use the open sights.

That being said my dad and several of the guys he used to hunt with used the see through rings and successfully used them for years, so they do work, they just aren't ideal for either.

My compromise is an adjustable scope. Usually a 3-9 or a 2-7, depending on where I am hunting, but I leave it on the lowest setting all the time, so if a closer shot comes up I'm ready for it. If the shot is far enough to need the 7x or 9x I usually have enough time to dial it up to the higher magnification.
 
Tjv787 said:
What if I have a good cheek riser? Wouldn't that solve the issue with positioning myself effectively for a shot using the scope or the iron sights ?

I want my .308 savage scout 11 to be a jack
Of all trades if it's possible. Iron sights for quick closer shots, but a scope
Readily available for longer shots.
Click to expand...

If you install a cheek rest than it be to high to use IRON sights. Called get a variable scout scope.
 
See through rings are also more prone to be knocked of their zero of the scope sometimes permanently by bumping the sight which doesn't take a lot especial with a high mag scope any error is going to be twice the magnification of the scope so a little bit more care is needed when handling. As for raising the sight it doesn't seem to affect most military's they mount optics for the infantry but most rear party troops are using iron sights which double as a caring handle with the sights a inch or two higher than those fitted with optics not to mention the PU scopes for Mosin Nagants in WW2. Bottom line it's your rifle and scope you can get various opinions here but it's your choice.
 
I've used them for years on my hunting guns with no problem. I've heard of all the issues mentioned above but have never had any of them other than yes, you do have to lift your head a bit to use the scope, but it's a hunting rifle not a benchrest target gun. If you want the "jack of all trades" ie-target acquisition with irons or snap shots then go for it.
Also, my Rem 7600 shoots moa at 100 yards and has never been knocked out of zero.
 
I have had the first set on my 22 for along time and love them. They where only $20.00 dollars so they were not that expensive. I find that I can quickly find my target using either site. They have been on the rifle for awhile and it has not lost zero.
I think this is a personal preference item.
Hope this helps.
Steve
 
complete garbage, the scope sits too high to use the scope properly, and the mounts pictured are not very sturdy, so the zero is easily lost if the rifle/scope gets jarred. By the way, a scope on low power is quicker than open sights for a person that is competent in the use of a scope.
 
A variable scope that turns down to a sufficiently low magnification will be superior to iron sights, even for close shots. Properly selected optics do practically everything better compared to iron sights.
 
Hmm. Thanks , lots to think about .. It comes down to, " will it be beneficial to shooting or hinder shooting
thanks for the advice !
 
stubblejumper said:
complete garbage, the scope sits too high to use the scope properly, and the mounts pictured are not very sturdy, so the zero is easily lost if the rifle/scope gets jarred. By the way, a scope on low power is quicker than open sights for a person that is competent in the use of a scope.
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:agree: They are a solution to a non-existent problem.
 
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