I have 2 hand priming tools and I use my press and primer arm exclusively.
Approximate cost of getting set up?
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I have 2 hand priming tools and I use my press and primer arm exclusively.
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If you are not sure if reloading is for you and don't want to invest a ton of money. You can always try a "lee loader" for one of your gun Calibers they are about $40 bucks...Buy a manual. some primers, powder and bullets and you can make bullets for your gun. If you enjoy it...sell the loader and move into the next step which would be a pre assembled kit or buy the pieces you feel are right for you.
Shell holder plates? Not used in a single stage press, but probably you meant shell holders. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing in the hands of an internet expert.
That's what happens when I re-write a text several times: I end up forgetting a conjunction, article or punctuation somewhere. Sadly, that sometimes can makes simple statements truly confusing and totally unintelligible for some ...special... readers.
The line should have read "...you need shell holders or plates ($10-$40), and dies ($50-80 per set). ", of course.
A little anal retentiveness is a dangerous things in the mind of an internet forum critic. It can lead to ridicule.
(Edit: did you find the typos in this one, too? I left more than one!)
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That's what happens when I re-write a text several times: I end up forgetting a conjunction, article or punctuation somewhere. Sadly, that sometimes can makes simple statements truly confusing and totally unintelligible for some ...special... readers.
The line should have read "...you need shell holders or plates ($10-$40), and dies ($50-80 per set). ", of course.
A little anal retentiveness is a dangerous things in the mind of an internet forum critic. It often leads to ridicule.
Yeah, that's what I said: you screwed up. But don't sweat it, everyone can make mistakes - although you probably had to rewrite the admission 4 times - right??
It's interesting that you were compelled to make the "..special..." insult. I feel somewhat humbled to know I can push your buttons without even intending to do so. All fun aside - the newbie doesn't know if the advice being given is right, wrong, or if the author simply suffered a momentary literary malfunction. You may find it hard to believe but I once rewrote a paragraph and left out the word "NOT". As in "Try to let the powder level drop below 2/3 full in the hopper" when I meant to say "Try NOT to let the powder level drop below 2/3 full in the hopper". A simple error that all the experienced people caught immediately, and yet the poor newbie was confused. Thankfully one of the other posters (obviously anal retentive) corrected my mistake. Because making mistakes isn't the end of the world unless your world is already very small. What is important is that the newbie gets good information.
If there was ever a tool to put a person OFF reloading the Lee Loader has to be that tool.....
Although if one had to load and didn't have much money or needed to take something along to a hunting camp then I SUPPOSE a Lee Loader would be that tool.
But if I were one of the other guys in that camp trying to enjoy the fire and my beer in the evening while someone played "Whack-A-Mole" with the Lee Loader by about the third beer I'd walk over and pull the lousy thing out of their hands and toss it into the woods. Or perhaps I'd grab the hammer and toss that instead so they couldn't hurt me as much as I scuttled away......
Yeah, that's what I said: you screwed up. But don't sweat it, everyone can make mistakes - although you probably had to rewrite the admission 4 times - right??
All fun aside - the newbie doesn't know if the advice being given is right, wrong, or if the author simply suffered a momentary literary malfunction. You may find it hard to believe but I once rewrote a paragraph and left out the word "NOT". As in "Try to let the powder level drop below 2/3 full in the hopper" when I meant to say "Try NOT to let the powder level drop below 2/3 full in the hopper". A simple error that all the experienced people caught immediately, and yet the poor newbie was confused. Thankfully one of the other posters (obviously anal retentive) corrected my mistake. Because making mistakes isn't the end of the world unless your world is already very small. What is important is that the newbie gets good information.
Jethunter, the only reason I felt compelled to make a point about "special" people is that it does indeed take someone "...special..." to quote an entire post for the sole purpose of pointing out that there's a typo in it, when that typo has essentially no bearing whatsoever on the purpose or point of the post. We were explaining the approximate costs of setting up for reloading, remember? Not spelling out an authoritative equipment shopping list or giving powder loads data or other safety-critical information.
And adding that remark on "little knowledge and internet experts" while doing so? Don't be disingenuous: given our past history of friction on the forums, any normal person would call that "trying to pick up a fight". You know how I react to that by now, right? Right. I'll agree to bury the hatchet (not in your skull) if you'll do the same.
Fun aside: Your example is perfect, and I agree with you about giving newbies useful and accurate advice. And I absolutely love the "momentary literary malfunction" description. I'll have to remember that one for future use.
P.S. Only 4 times? Oh no! Depending how you count it, I can make major changes at least 10-12 times to every post I write before I click "Save", and even then often a couple times afterwards too. I do aim for exactitude and proper grammar/spelling... but still make mistakes all the time. I once heard Mozart wrote some of his concertos complete and without a single error or crossed-out symbol right from the very first draft... By Browning, Mauser and Stoner, I so wish I could do that!!
P.P.S. Now you got me curious: in your example, were you speaking of leaving the powder hopper at least 2/3 full at all time, was it to maintain even density of the loads from start to finish in a batch? I thought that was the purpose of the baffles that came with my hopper: to take most of the weight of the column of powder so that the powder below it isn't unduly compressed?
I bought mostly from Amazon.ca, and initially set my sights on a .45 ACP
Lee classic Turret $158
Lee safety primer kit: $40
Lee .45 ACP deluxe carbide dies: $60
Frankford arsenal digital scale: $44
Frankford arsenal tumbler kit: $99 (Cabelas.ca on sale)
Frankford arsenal reloading tray: $8
IMR 700X powder: $32 (powder was initially hard to get)
Campro .45 ACP 1000 plated 230RN: $160
Winchester 1000 count large pistol primer: $44
Lee lube in a tube: $8
Lee bench plate: $30
Lee auto disk pro: $58
Digital calipers: $44
Primer pocket cleaner with deburring tool: $8
B&D work mate: $25 (used)
Plywood and bolts for the bench: $45
Brass: Range pickup and my own spent brass
Total: $863 for my setup.
I've since started reloading rifle and bought Lyman case spray for $9.00, case gauges for .223 and .308, trimmers which has tacked on additional cost.
Lee classic Turret $158
Lee safety primer kit: $40
Lee .45 ACP deluxe carbide dies: $60
Frankford arsenal digital scale: $44
Frankford arsenal tumbler kit: $99 (Cabelas.ca on sale)
Frankford arsenal reloading tray: $8
IMR 700X powder: $32 (powder was initially hard to get)
Campro .45 ACP 1000 plated 230RN: $160
Winchester 1000 count large pistol primer: $44
Lee lube in a tube: $8
Lee bench plate: $30
Lee auto disk pro: $58
Digital calipers: $44
Primer pocket cleaner with deburring tool: $8
B&D work mate: $25 (used)
Plywood and bolts for the bench: $45
Brass: Range pickup and my own spent brass
Total: $863 for my setup.
I've since started reloading rifle and bought Lyman case spray for $9.00, case gauges for .223 and .308, trimmers which has tacked on additional cost.
Jethunter, the only reason I felt compelled to make a point about "special" people is that it does indeed take someone "...special..." to quote an entire post for the sole purpose of pointing out that there's a typo in it, when that typo has essentially no bearing whatsoever on the purpose or point of the post. We were explaining the approximate costs of setting up for reloading, remember? Not spelling out an authoritative equipment shopping list or giving powder loads data or other safety-critical information.
And adding that remark on "little knowledge and internet experts" while doing so? Don't be disingenuous: given our past history of friction on the forums, any normal person would call that "trying to pick up a fight". You know how I react to that by now, right? Right. I'll agree to bury the hatchet (not in your skull) if you'll do the same.
Fun aside: Your example is perfect, and I agree with you about giving newbies useful and accurate advice. And I absolutely love the "momentary literary malfunction" description. I'll have to remember that one for future use.
P.S. Only 4 times? Oh no! Depending how you count it, I can make major changes at least 10-12 times to every post I write before I click "Save", and even then often a couple times afterwards too. I do aim for exactitude and proper grammar/spelling... but still make mistakes all the time. I once heard Mozart wrote some of his concertos complete and without a single error or crossed-out symbol right from the very first draft... By Browning, Mauser and Stoner, I so wish I could do that!!
P.P.S. Now you got me curious: in your example, were you speaking of leaving the powder hopper at least 2/3 full at all time, was it to maintain even density of the loads from start to finish in a batch? I thought that was the purpose of the baffles that came with my hopper: to take most of the weight of the column of powder so that the powder below it isn't unduly compressed?
You have taken me out of context. I didn't know it was a typo; it was not an obvious typo since no words were misspelled nor punctuation missing. It seemed that you were confusing shell holders and shell plates, which certainly did bring your level of expertise into question, hence the internet expert quip and a mistake nonetheless. Your level of competence doesn't concern me, but I would hate to see the poor newbie asking for the wrong parts in a store or mis-ordering online. KISS.
My definition of "special" is the guy who, in response to a simple question about reloading equipment, writes a novella and then rewrites it 10-12 times. Some people would think that is anally retentive, possibly even disturbed. So what I'm really saying is: "Doctor, cure yourself!"
There is no need to continue a conversation so don't be massively offended if i disengage - but otoh it would be fine with me if you were just a little bit offended.
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It's fine for a new reloader to start out with simple, basic tools and upgrade later. Kind of silly for someone to spend thousands of $ on top-of-the-line kit when he doesn't actually know anything about reloading yet.
Learn to walk before you try to run. If you decide to upgrade later it is will be easy to sell basic reloading tools on the EE because there are always new people starting out that are looking for it.
Learn to walk before you try to run. If you decide to upgrade later it is will be easy to sell basic reloading tools on the EE because there are always new people starting out that are looking for it.
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Personally I don't like lee. Different strokes, different folks. If it was me I would look for used RCBS, Redding or Hornady and not have to deal with the forever nagging question, I wish. Be patient and look for used. Once in a while a deal comes around like I got where I got all rcbs equipment for half price of new. I never need to think that I wish I had bought the best. Is Lee ok. Sure. So is a bushnell banner scope. I don't think so!!!
