Narrow Scout Style Scope Options?

I got over the minor blemishes I was fixated on. Cleaned it all up and it wasn't even rust, it's some sort of tooling fluid frosting. Any other mark I suspected was simply due to the bolt being cycled and is normal wear from testing.
.I don't think I WONT like it and I won be selling it and shopping for a new rifle, this rifle will be it.
I DO want to use the irons, which is why I'm 'trying' a see thru style ring with a longer eye relief scope.
Thanks for the advice and info. I'm gonna continue my research and hopefully find something suitable
 
Tjv787 said:
I got over the minor blemishes I was fixated on. Cleaned it all up and it wasn't even rust, it's some sort of tooling fluid frosting. Any other mark I suspected was simply due to the bolt being cycled and is normal wear from testing.
.I don't think I WONT like it and I won be selling it and shopping for a new rifle, this rifle will be it.
I DO want to use the irons, which is why I'm 'trying' a see thru style ring with a longer eye relief scope.
Thanks for the advice and info. I'm gonna continue my research and hopefully find something suitable
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You don't want to go with see through rings on your scout rifle.
Get some Leupold,Warne, Burris,etc quick release rings to mount your scope.
You can pop the scope off/on easily when you want to use the irons.
See through rings will put the scope way high.(JMHO)
P.S.
I suggest this one.
https://www.wolverinesupplies.com/images/items/Fullsize/HLXLER27X32BDC.jpg?t=635664610289499771
 
The Hi lux has already been pointed out as the obvious choice, not sure what else the OP wants or expects for less then $250.
Wolverine will back up the Hi-lux with lifetime support for the original Cdn buyer which is beyond what Hi-lux states for warranty outside of the US.
Kudos to Wolverine.

Good luck OP, Just go out and shoot the peep sights..... you might be surprised.
 
The OP has no place to shoot - he lives in the "big smoke", has no practical shooting experience, and has no friends or mentors that will take him to a range. Hence his dependence on the internet, and the flurry of inane posts. I'm too far away to assist - can someone near TO please take this lad out for a session at a range?
 
Hey I saw a new member ask the difference between a 10/22 and 22 LR, My threads haven't been THAT embarrassing/annoying..have they? :s I'm all about self research but I also like opinions and advice.
Well I would like to shoot, this weekend I'm trying out my .22 and air rifle at a buddies parents farm so it's a start.
I figure when it's spring and I'm going up north to the cottage I can shoot up there and try my .308. Can I do That? Park on the side of the road and go For a walk into crown land and shoot? This is up past parry sound.
But your right, I'm green and no one in my family shoots or hunts.
I'm going to try with the see thrus first. They aren't Super high and my investment in the rings are minimal. Worse case I buy new 40$ rings lol

So anyone have experience with this set up? I will stick to 2-7x. I'm looking at 8-12 inch eye relief ?
 
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Tjv787 said:
I'm ok with 7x as a maximum.....I guess...Just would be nice to have more magnification then my 22LR set up which is 3-9x. What eye relief range do u think I will need on my scout 11? Pic posted earlier thx
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Replace the 3-9x scope on the .22rimfire rifle with a 4x.
 
Tjv787 said:
Hey I saw a new member ask the difference between a 10/22 and 22 LR, My threads haven't been THAT embarrassing/annoying..have they? :s I'm all about self research but I also like opinions and advice.
Well I would like to shoot, this weekend I'm trying out my .22 and air rifle at a buddies parents farm so it's a start.
I figure when it's spring and I'm going up north to the cottage I can shoot up there and try my .308. Can I do That? Park on the side of the road and go For a walk into crown land and shoot? This is up past parry sound.
But your right, I'm green and no one in my family shoots or hunts.
I'm going to try with the see thrus first. They aren't Super high and my investment in the rings are minimal. Worse case I buy new 40$ rings lol

So anyone have experience with this set up? I will stick to 2-7x. I'm looking at 8-12 inch eye relief ?
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We all started somewhere, sometime, nothing wrong with asking advice.
Thing is after a while you need to make a decision to either take some advice from people with more experience or make up your own mind.
Post #22 is the answer to your quest.
 
The important thing is to find something you like and something you're comfortable with. A 3-9X is great on a .22. Heck, I've got a Falnon 4-14X on one of mine. It isn't dependable on centerfire. Scope is almost bigger than the rifle. Does it look kind of goofy? You bet it does, but it works, and I can see gophers clearly at 100+ yards. As has been stated open sites will work, but they aren't for precision. If you want to put bullets inside 3" at 300 meters you need a scope that will let you see a 3" target at 300 meters, and maybe it's my "old" eyes, but a 2-7X won't do it for me.

Don't let it get to you. That's what this forum is for-asking questions and sharing knowledge. I admit that I do see some questions that make me shake my head, and some that seem to get asked every Tuesday or Thursday. I do try to help when I can, because even local guys that I talk too, that own firearms, don't know much about them. They don't understand our confusing laws, and have been fed so much liberal bull$h!t rumours that they don't know which way is up. Hang in there, knowledge does come.
 
Tjv787 said:
Good advice, so how far can 7x magnification scope shoot accurately? 200 yards ?
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How accurate can you shoot? I know people that can shoot accurate with a 3.4x optic at 500M.

I shoot a 4x and I can get 1" at 100Y. But also can shoot 300M well. But you can have all the best equipment but its comes down to you as the shooter to make it happen.
 
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Hey I saw a new member ask the difference between a 10/22 and 22 LR, My threads haven't been THAT embarrassing/annoying..have they? :s I'm all about self research but I also like opinions and advice.
Well I would like to shoot, this weekend I'm trying out my .22 and air rifle at a buddies parents farm so it's a start.
I figure when it's spring and I'm going up north to the cottage I can shoot up there and try my .308. Can I do That? Park on the side of the road and go For a walk into crown land and shoot? This is up past parry sound.
But your right, I'm green and no one in my family shoots or hunts.
I'm going to try with the see thrus first. They aren't Super high and my investment in the rings are minimal. Worse case I buy new 40$ rings lol

So anyone have experience with this set up? I will stick to 2-7x. I'm looking at 8-12 inch eye relief ?
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You're doing fine, I'd rather try and assist someone asking questions vs someone spouting answers.

The Scout style rifle/optics is an acquired taste. I love the rifle idea, but was not a fan of the scout style scope. Any magnification With an LER scope adds a smaller field of view and general lack of clarity. The options for a Scout scope in your price range are limited, and I feel you may find yourself unhappy with the result.

I would suggest picking up a used Red dot sight from the EE, see how you like shooting with that mounted forward of the receiver. You'll know pretty quick if that type of setup works for you or not, and you're not out much $.

There's nothing wrong with a Scout Rifle using a standard scope setup.


Also, you're not doing yourself any favors with "see through" rings.
 
That ruger scout is nice. Having the scope mounted rearward would open up more scope
Options but I'm going to try it mounted forward and see how it goes. I just won't spend a lot in this setup incase I have to start over lol

Is aim sports scopes decent ? Obviously they aren't going to be a Hi-Lux , Burris or vortex, but acceptable or garbage ?
Link to scope below :
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B003BRB1PM/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1456508203&sr=8-1&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=scout+scope&dpPl=1&dpID=318JCqI%2BCJL&ref=plSrch
 
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HI-lux is decent, Hard to imagine the Aim scope at $75Cdn with an illumintated reticle being decent. The money you would be out if it fails to satisfy would have been better spent upgrading your $200 budget to maybe afford the Vortex. It's not like Vortex and Hi-lux (both made in China) don't fail. But with Wolverine handling the lifetime warranty for Hi-lux and Vortex doing the same, at least you are only out the wait time for warranty support.
None of them are hi end scopes. The Vortex would have better resale value because unlike the Hi-lux it's warranty goes with the scope not the first buyer.
The Aim would be worth about what it would cost to ship plus maybe $20.00 if you don't like it.

The fact is if you get your shooting skills to the point where you can shoot say a one inch group at 100 yards fairly consistently or make one hole at 50 yards all day long you will have the skills to shoot further by default. There is no real "need" for learning to shoot by starting with a hi power scope at longer range.

Save up a bit more cash for the scope and learn to shoot your rifle with the peep sight first at shorter range.
 
Tjv787 said:
That ruger scout is nice. Having the scope mounted rearward would open up more scope
Options but I'm going to try it mounted forward and see how it goes. I just won't spend a lot in this setup incase I have to start over lol

Is aim sports scopes decent ? Obviously they aren't going to be a Hi-Lux , Burris or vortex, but acceptable or garbage ?
Link to scope below :
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B003BRB1PM/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1456508203&sr=8-1&pi=SX200_QL40&keywords=scout+scope&dpPl=1&dpID=318JCqI%2BCJL&ref=plSrch
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As clear as a cheap 4x15 tasco scope. I had one the variable power knob was very tight. When you got into the 7x kinda became blurry. I noticed that the ends of the cross air started to droop down ( curve ) or not be clear and not focus while on target. Def not as clear and good as my Nikon Gold Crown. I noticed that the reticle would move so POI would differ. I wouldnt worry about the illumination.

I just got a 2.5x now. Seems to be a bit better.

ATM take the money you were going to buy a scope and shoot it with the peep sights.
 
Tjv787 said:
Hey I saw a new member ask the difference between a 10/22 and 22 LR, My threads haven't been THAT embarrassing/annoying..have they? :s I'm all about self research but I also like opinions and advice.
Well I would like to shoot, this weekend I'm trying out my .22 and air rifle at a buddies parents farm so it's a start.
I figure when it's spring and I'm going up north to the cottage I can shoot up there and try my .308. Can I do That? Park on the side of the road and go For a walk into crown land and shoot? This is up past parry sound.
But your right, I'm green and no one in my family shoots or hunts.
I'm going to try with the see thrus first. They aren't Super high and my investment in the rings are minimal. Worse case I buy new 40$ rings lol

So anyone have experience with this set up? I will stick to 2-7x. I'm looking at 8-12 inch eye relief ?
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I've built four or five Scout rifles, back before any of the factories built them. Still have one I built on a 600. Anything over 2.75x on this type of rifle is a waste of time. Scout rifles are all about quick target acquisition and ease of use. FWIW - dan
 
OkayShooter said:
ATM take the money you were going to buy a scope and shoot it with the peep sights.
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Good idea, spend the $200 on getting the best deal you can on some surplus 7.62X51 and learn to shoot.
The peep sights are excellent on your rifle.

How's your eyesight Tjv?
 
I honestly can shoot the 2-7X accurately at 100 meters, but we're talking about smallish groups. Guys that talk about shooting accurately at 4 or 5 hundred yards with a 4X are talking about a different type of accuracy. Yes, I know guys that use an ACOG and are accurate at 400 - ON A MAN SiZED TARGET! They are not shooting MOA with a 4X scope at that distance. So a lot of this depends on your definition of accuracy. I have a Ruger Scout with a Hilux. Sighted for 100. Let's be honest, with the 2-7 I get about 1 1/2" groups consistently. I can shoot a coyote at 200, might even take a poke ar him at 300, but for me on a coyote sized target that's about it. And that's an honest 300, which is a pretty good distance in the real world. Across a 1/4 section is a half mile - approx. 880 yards/800 meters. The ballistics at 800 are in a whole different world that the precision, long-range guys live in. Anybody that tells you they can hit a coyote across a 1/4 section with open sights, consistently is full of it.

I guess first you need to make a decision one way or the other what you want the rifle to do. If you want to shoot really small groups on paper at 100 or 200 ( and I'm talking small groups, like 1/2 MOA) then unfortunately you've probably got the wrong rifle, never mind the optics. A larger scope, traditionally mounted will probably get you MOA with good quality ammo, but you sacrifice the quick point & shoot that the scout scope offers. It really is a trade off, and I feel your pain. We all seem to be searching for that perfect rifle that will do everything. I've been on a quest to find that ONE rifle that is perfect and will let me get rid off all the others for about 30 years. I'm still searching.
 
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