7mm 08 A few Questions

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Hi All

I'm wanting to know from you that shoot a 7mm 08 what you think of the calibre .

#1 What's the recoil compared to a 30.06. ?

#2 I know it's very suitable for deer, would you use it to hunt moose ?


# 3 If you bought a new rifle in 7mm 08 what rifle would you buy ?

# 4 What factory loads would you use ?
Thanks I appreciate it !
Leavenworth
 
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#1: recoil is noticeably less than a .30-06, provided both rifles fit you well. It is not absent, but it is quite mild as far as big game rifles go.

#2: the cartridge is effective on Elk and Moose provided you use a quality bullet and place it well. It is not underpowered for this purpose.

#3: I have a Rem 700 Mountain SS in the cartridge. What type of rifles do you like?
 
Hi All

I'm wanting to know from you that shoot a 7mm 08 what you think of the calibre .

#1 What's the recoil compared to a 30.06. ? A pleasure to shoot, get a rifle that fits!

#2 I know it's very suitable for deer, would you use it to hunt moose ? Kills moose dead, put the pill where it counts


# 3 If you bought a new rifle in 7mm 08 what rifle would you buy ?Budget? Buy what you can afford and what fits. Don't go for the 'light' varieties, you'll just cancel out the felt recoil difference

My 7-08 is the go to gun in the stable, 7x57 is it's European twin


Thanks I appreciate it !
Leavenworth


My 7-08 is the go to gun in the stable
 
#1: recoil is noticeably less than a .30-06, provided both rifles fit you well. It is not absent, but it is quite mild as far as big game rifles go.

#2: the cartridge is effective on Elk and Moose provided you use a quality bullet and place it well. It is not underpowered for this purpose.

#3: I have a Rem 700 Mountain SS in the cartridge. What type of rifles do you like?

Well I like bolt action . I have a Factory Remington Classic not a BDL or ADL in 30.06 it's about 20 years old .

Who makes the best production rifle now I'm hearing Remington is not that great anymore.
Thanks
Leavenworth
 
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I now use a 7.08 for Moose (use a 243 for deer).

I used to hunt everything with a 30.06, then the kids moved out and I could afford some new rifles :)

A 30.06 produces somewhere between 18 to 20 pounds of recoil (depending on rifle weight, bullet weight etc).

A 7.08 produces somewhere in the 12 or 13 pounds of recoil range (same variables) - so barely over half the recoil.

It is "noticeably" easier on the shoulder than a 30.06 - if I shot a 5 shot group with my 30.06 my "shoulder" knew it. I can shoot 40 rounds with the 7.08 and my shoulder is "just starting to notice".

I did buy a new rifle (ok, couple years back). I bought a Weatherby Vanguard II Sporter (wood stock) chambered in 7.08 and glassed it with a Burris E1 3-9X40 scope.

The rifle is "heavier" right out of the box and with the scope and rings, sling and the magazine full it comes in a little over 9 lbs - being heavier knocks the recoil down even further. That may be an issue for some, but where I "hunt this rifle" I'm not humping up and down hills, much less mountains. It spends a great deal of time "sitting on a watch" with me.

Like I said, I use the 7.08 "exclusively" for moose (eastern moose in Northern Ontario, not Yukon/Northern BC moose - I say that because some would say there is a difference and it sounds like "out west" longer shots are more common - most places I hunt in Northern Ontario you can't see further than 100 yards or so due to forest density).

It is a viable moose caliber out to way past where I would shoot (it's easily a 300 yard gun). I load it with 140 grain Swift A-Frames (my go to moose bullet) or alternately I would consider a 140 grain Nosler Partition or Accubond as "just as lethal" - my rifle seems to like 140 grain bullets. And I do advocate using a fairly stout bullet in a sub-caliber or (in the opinion of some) a "marginal caliber".

With a 7.08 if used in the same sentence as Moose I would "absolutely avoid" any mono bullets (E-Tip, TTSX, GMX). A 7.08 barely has the muzzle velocity to get good expansion from the mono's (much less out at 200 or 300 yards), so if you have to shoot copper, this is not a caliber for you unless you are shooting deer at 50 or 75 yards.
 
I now use a 7.08 for Moose (use a 243 for deer).

I used to hunt everything with a 30.06, then the kids moved out and I could afford some new rifles :)

A 30.06 produces somewhere between 18 to 20 pounds of recoil (depending on rifle weight, bullet weight etc).

A 7.08 produces somewhere in the 12 or 13 pounds of recoil range (same variables) - so barely over half the recoil.

It is "noticeably" easier on the shoulder than a 30.06 - if I shot a 5 shot group with my 30.06 my "shoulder" knew it. I can shoot 40 rounds with the 7.08 and my shoulder is "just starting to notice".

I did buy a new rifle (ok, couple years back). I bought a Weatherby Vanguard II Sporter (wood stock) chambered in 7.08 and glassed it with a Burris E1 3-9X40 scope.

The rifle is "heavier" right out of the box and with the scope and rings, sling and the magazine full it comes in a little over 9 lbs - being heavier knocks the recoil down even further. That may be an issue for some, but where I "hunt this rifle" I'm not humping up and down hills, much less mountains. It spends a great deal of time "sitting on a watch" with me.

Like I said, I use the 7.08 "exclusively" for moose (eastern moose in Northern Ontario, not Yukon/Northern BC moose - I say that because some would say there is a difference and it sounds like "out west" longer shots are more common - most places I hunt in Northern Ontario you can't see further than 100 yards or so due to forest density).

It is a viable moose caliber out to way past where I would shoot (it's easily a 300 yard gun). I load it with 140 grain Swift A-Frames (my go to moose bullet) or alternately I would consider a 140 grain Nosler Partition or Accubond as "just as lethal" - my rifle seems to like 140 grain bullets. And I do advocate using a fairly stout bullet in a sub-caliber or (in the opinion of some) a "marginal caliber".

With a 7.08 if used in the same sentence as Moose I would "absolutely avoid" any mono bullets (E-Tip, TTSX, GMX). A 7.08 barely has the muzzle velocity to get good expansion from the mono's (much less out at 200 or 300 yards), so if you have to shoot copper, this is not a caliber for you unless you are shooting deer at 50 or 75 yards.

Thanks Graham !

I'm not sure what you mean when you say "mono bullets " Are you talking factory loads ?
Thanks
Leavenworth
 
Thanks Graham !

I'm not sure what you mean when you say "mono bullets " Are you talking factory loads ?
Thanks
Leavenworth


He means bullets made out of solid copper (no lead). Mono bullets are tough and penetrate well, but have a reputation of not ecpanding enough at low velocities. Examples are Barnes bullets, Nosler E-Tips and Hornady GMX.
 
Well I like bolt action . I have a Factory Remington Custom not a BDL or ADL in 30.06 it's about 20 years old .

Who makes the best production rifle now I'm hearing Remington is not that great anymore.
Thanks
Leavenworth

The best production rifle depends on your budget. Also, do you like classic walnut and blue or are you into composite stocks and stainless steel?

The Weatherby Vanguard is probably the best budget rifle and it comes in many iterations. If you step up a little the new Winchester Mod 70s are fantastic, so are CZ rifles if you like classic walnut and blue. The Ruger M77 Hawkeye is a good rifle on par with the Mod 70 and it comes in all sorts of different configurations. If you like plastic than there is the Tikka T3. Remington still makes a decent rifle, just not quite like they used to be. Just a few options off the top of my head, If you budget is higher than these rifles than the sky is the limit.
 
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Tikka T3 light using remington core lock 140 grain factory ammo has gotten me multiple deer and a nice BC moose, shot placement trumps horsepower
 
Once you know how much you have in the piggy bank for the rifle (or rifle plus the scope and decide what quality of glass you want), then you can shop for the "best value" in a rifle.

I bought the Vanguard II because it was listing in the 750 buck range at the time (which was about what I wanted to spend - was looking for a rifle kitted out with scope, sling, a couple boxes of factory ammo and tax etc in the $1400 range).

I prefer wood stocks and the Rem 700's "with wood" were about 200 bucks more expensive, I couldn't source an Browning X-Bolt in 7.08 (and I would have considered that one for sure). I hate the safety on Mod 70 Winchesters (and have a bit of grudge against Win, so double whammy - nothing wrong with the rifle, just not for me). I also dislike the M77 Ruger's "feel" - again, great rifle but to me it feels like I'm shouldering a 2X6 board.

The 7.08 is not one of the "super popular" calibers but pretty much all the mfg's chamber at least some of their rifle models in 7.08 - might not see it "on the shelf" but just about any dealer can get what you want once you decide on a model.
 
#1 What's the recoil compared to a 30.06. ?

Hardly anything (I also have a 30-06)

#2 I know it's very suitable for deer, would you use it to hunt moose ?

Yes I would with the right bullet

# 3 If you bought a new rifle in 7mm 08 what rifle would you buy ?

I just did this and bought a Winchester model 70 supergrade. I would buy again and again.
 
The Weatherby Vanguard is probably the best budget rifle and it comes in many iterations.
I like the Vanguards and do own one on those $400 phlame camo jobs in 270Win. I am very happy with mine but anyone buying one should know that they are no lightweight rifle.
 
Hi All

I'm wanting to know from you that shoot a 7mm 08 what you think of the calibre .

#1 What's the recoil compared to a 30.06. ?
Way less

#2 I know it's very suitable for deer, would you use it to hunt moose ?

Yes I do/have. Think 7x57 twin.


# 3 If you bought a new rifle in 7mm 08 what rifle would you buy ?

Tikka T3 Hunter

# 4 What factory loads would you use ?
Reload for it! 145gr Speer's
Thanks I appreciate it !
Leavenworth

that is that.
 
It has enough power for moose at distances longer than most will shoot. The 7mm08 would probably would do the deed at 450-500 yards.

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