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I've been looking around for one of the 14" 870 barrels and I'm curious, how do you prove that it's not just an illegally chopped barrel? Do they have the length stamped on them? I'd hate to get into hot water unnecessarily.

Thanks in advance.
 
Good question, I don't want to be questioned and hassled because some officer did not know it is legal if it is straight from the factory.
 
Buyer beware. There are a number of indicators to look for. If its 2 3/4 only, if it says full choke. If it's blued as opposed to parkerised (there may be some 14" barrels that are blued, but most I've seen are parked). The actual Remington barrels that I have all have a bead on a pedestal, but the Chinese ones just have a bead. Basically you take your chances. I haven't even looked at the side of mine to see if it says the length on it to be honest. Dlask barrels are fairly unique and can't really be mistaken for anything else.
 
dogzilla said:
Buyer beware. There are a number of indicators to look for. If its 2 3/4 only, if it says full choke. If it's blued as opposed to parkerised (there may be some 14" barrels that are blued, but most I've seen are parked). The actual Remington barrels that I have all have a bead on a pedestal, but the Chinese ones just have a bead. Basically you take your chances. I haven't even looked at the side of mine to see if it says the length on it to be honest. Dlask barrels are fairly unique and can't really be mistaken for anything else.
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Thanks for the great reply! Seems risky and hardly worthwhile now.
 
Both of my Remington 14" barrels (one is blued, and one is parkerized) have a fixed modified choke, which should be easy to verify with calipers. It should only be an issue with a 14" cylinder bore - no?
 
It's an aspect of our gun laws that make zero sense and should be eliminated.
Two barrels, same dimensions and function , one is considered a possible prohibited item ( when mated to a receiver) and the other is non restricted.

The choke stamping on the barrel should match the choke.
 
Tom E Gun said:
Both of my Remington 14" barrels (one is blued, and one is parkerized) have a fixed modified choke, which should be easy to verify with calipers. It should only be an issue with a 14" cylinder bore - no?
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Not if it says CYL on the barrel.
 
BeaverMeat said:
as many said before. The choke marking is the best way to tell. Its not rocket science.
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i would not be hinging my case on a choke . they can be modified in any way possible and be perfectly legal. the same could be said of sights as they often get modified . there was a court case in Ontario a number of years ago were a man was accused of cutting down a moss berg barrel to 14 inches . the prosecution brought in a moss berg representative to testify. the case hinged on the style of the end of the barrel . the firearm rep first testified that no factory barrel had that open squared style. he was forced to recant his testimony when the defense produced evidence that such a barrel had been factory produced to intimidate those looking at the business end . the case was dismissed . to answer the posters question i have no answer and do not pretend to know. i have compared 14 inch Remington barrels to longer factory barrels and have failed to come up with the answer. a good question to put to Remington i am thinking .
 
My personal view: if the barrel isn't obviously cut and has a professionally installed bead or sight, sight pedestal, or threaded chokes in the Remchoke pattern, prosecution would likely be difficult as all the major shotgun makers have made factory offerings in 12.5", 14", 18", 18.5", 20", etc.

Similarly, if you have a DA grizzly wearing a short barrel, it would be hard to accuse someone of cutting a grizzly barrel when the great majority of them were sold as either 12.5" or 8.5".
 
farmer47 said:
i would not be hinging my case on a choke . they can be modified in any way possible and be perfectly legal. the same could be said of sights as they often get modified . there was a court case in Ontario a number of years ago were a man was accused of cutting down a moss berg barrel to 14 inches . the prosecution brought in a moss berg representative to testify. the case hinged on the style of the end of the barrel . the firearm rep first testified that no factory barrel had that open squared style. he was forced to recant his testimony when the defense produced evidence that such a barrel had been factory produced to intimidate those looking at the business end . the case was dismissed . to answer the posters question i have no answer and do not pretend to know. i have compared 14 inch Remington barrels to longer factory barrels and have failed to come up with the answer. a good question to put to Remington i am thinking .
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I'd like to read more about that case...... sounds bizarre?

If you buy a Remington shotgun used, with a 14 inch barrel, and the choke marking is stamped "full"...... I'd hinge my opinion on the choke.
 
Don't think the techs couldn't figure out if it's been cut or not. It may not be stamped in writing, but the proof marks say exactly what it is
 
dogzilla said:
Don't think the techs couldn't figure out if it's been cut or not. It may not be stamped in writing, but the proof marks say exactly what it is
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And you think Norinco shares the data to decipher chinese shotgun barrel proofs with the RCMP? Doubtful.

In any event, I know I bought my short barrels new in factory packaging. The burden would be on the RCMP to prove I did anything wrong - would be tough considering I know for a fact all mine are legitimate shorties.
 
I'm one of the guys that bought a 14" off SFRC despite all the negative reviews.....absolutely no markings, parkerized, and no sight.
But...I have a sales receipt that shows I bought a 14" barrel. It's a pain to pack it but gives me piece of mind in case I have an issue with LEO.
 
Can-down said:
I'd like to read more about that case...... sounds bizarre?

If you buy a Remington shotgun used, with a 14 inch barrel, and the choke marking is stamped "full"...... I'd hinge my opinion on the choke.
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i see were you are coming from now that i have had time to think about it . the case i was referring to was wrote up in the n.f.a. magazine a number of years ago and made for a good read .the judge was a no nonsense guy who put the prosecution in their place when they described the gun storage area as messy. his put down was the man was being tried for cutting a barrel and not housekeeping . i will see if i can come up with the article . as this case was about a mossberg barrel it would appear to me that barrel markings told them nothing about the length .
 
I wasn't aware of any cases.
Mossberg uses a different lug positions for their 14" barrel so that would have to be moved as well as the barrel shortened.


I think there's a good argument, towards overturning the law based on the fact that the exact same object ( non modified) is considered non restricted.
It makes no sense at all.
 
enefgee said:
Burden of proof isn't on you - it's on the LEO. How do you prove something that didn't happen? We worry too much.
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Yeah .. rrrright.

Too many of the *&^%((&'s take the "let the judge sort it out" approach.

10 grand, one year later, take your guns in the meantime and get off of some law you didn't break. Seen it happen too many times.

Yet they want our respect ... where's the giant middle finger emoticon ?
 
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