quit teasing us McCoy with that as none of the rest of us has one.yes it is legal because it is registered .Look ma' , no bead, 13.5" barrel , Legal ?
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14" 870 barrels
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If memory is correct - once you register a shotgun receiver as restricted - it remains restricted forever - you can change anything you want on it but a full size shotgun with 28" barrel on a restricted receiver remains restricted.
It doesn't have to make sense......
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I think that's an unfair comment to make. I'd rather see more threads on obscure firearms rather than yet another thread on something that has been discussed ad nauseam.
i think your interpretation would be correct on a handgun but i do not think it apply;s to shotguns. i will give the firearms center a call and find out .
I am super curious of the real "law" surrounding this issue.
I want to build a shorty up from an 870 instead of buying DA Griz.
If I buy the 12.5 or 8.5 inch barrel from factory I thought I was within those smokey legal boundaries?
As a newly licensed citizen, I am just now realizing how absolutely WACKED most of the Canadian gun laws are...
I want to build a shorty up from an 870 instead of buying DA Griz.
If I buy the 12.5 or 8.5 inch barrel from factory I thought I was within those smokey legal boundaries?
As a newly licensed citizen, I am just now realizing how absolutely WACKED most of the Canadian gun laws are...
i just got off the phone after talking to a firearm tec and the best answer is it depends .if the gun comes from the manufacture as a handgun it is a handgun and can not be returned to unrestricted. the example i was given was the judge .the dlask guns can be switched between classes by adding a full stock . the one dlask gun that can not return to unrestricted were the early production models that had the remington name removed and had the dlask insignia on the receiver .it makes no sense but is basically on a case by case . i have a couple of restricted shotguns that can not be unrestricted as i asked . one is a handi gun from the 1930 era and it has a twelve inch barrel . it is a handgun in the eyes of the law . the other is registered as a b300 and is an early version and almost identical to the boito back packers except it has a pistol grip on it . it is a handgun also in the eyes of the law and can not be made unrestricted . for a definitive answer on a particular gun you will have to find out from a firearms tec. 1 800 731 4000 and ask for a firearm technician as the ladies in miramichi can not give you a legal interpretation.
you will be legal to build a gun using a factory short barrel as there are an endless amount of guns out there with these short barrels and it is entirely legal . do not put a pistol grip on it or get below the twenty six inch length . you will have created a restricted firearm and unless you register it and have the proper restricted license you could find yourself in trouble. i have a dlask short barrel on a wingmaster receiver and it is a favourite with me . if you use the 8.5 barrel you will need to do some machining to shorten the tube and forearm rails . in my opinion it is a lot easier to go with a minimum 12.5 barrel or longer .
Good to know. I have RPAL but I don't want the conditions that come with a restricted firearm. Its main purpose will be wildlife protection. 12.5" barrel it is, probably offers slightly more velocity than the 8.5"..?
Can you recommend a barrel?
Can you recommend a barrel?
Agreed on the 12 1/2 being the easy minimum, below that things get tricky - on a Remington. If your favorite flavour is Mossberg, even a 14 is more complex, requiring a kit consisting of mag tube, forend, and barrel. To me the sweet spot, for being functional and short is 14. 12 1/2 works, but can cause issues with slinging and for some reason seems to be the point at which things get obnoxious (blast and flash). I had a Dominion 12 1/2 barrel on an Express, with a bead and a rail mounted red dot - it worked fine. I think a Dlask barrel would be preferable as the quality is more consistent, and there's enough meat to thread for chokes. If the 14 tickles your fancy, there are factory Remington barrels on the market right now that work perfectly.
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MauserMike
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Yes... you know where this will go. 18.5" period, no exceptions!
There is exceptions....you can order a 8.5 inch Dominion Grizzly 12 gauge off Canada ammo...the key is the barrel cannot be MODIFIED to shorter than 18.5 " but it CAN be manufactured ,by a firearms manufacturing company, and sold to the general PAL holding public.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
CPF officer I talked to years ago when I was considering buying a shorty Dlask shotgun that came with both the full length and pistol stock.
Given the controversy and the less than clear comments from our government, I elected not to go ahead with the purchase.
Wasn't really that big on becoming a test case.
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mastermind
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Who has Remington 14" in stock currently?
I couldn't find one, So I just bought a Norinco 14" and used the barrel on my 870 build. Resold the Norinco shotgun with a 18" barrel to recoup my money...
Im sending the Norinco barrel and S&J +1 extension to Ryan's Gun Bluing and everything should match my old 870 wingmaster. For less than the cost of a 14" dlask or Remmy.
Im sending the Norinco barrel and S&J +1 extension to Ryan's Gun Bluing and everything should match my old 870 wingmaster. For less than the cost of a 14" dlask or Remmy.
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Sold out everywhere, and apparently the US has said that there will be no future exports either.
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