Wingmaster and Fleur de lis

Here is a 1977 Wingmaster with original Fleur-de-lis stock;

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I have seen quite a few old 870s with the short forend that is the same as the current police one. They can't all have had different forends swapped or be police guns with swapped barrels. Both types of ribbed forends seem to be reasonably common on guns built after about the mid to late '50s (early guns used a different forend with a round cross-section). It might be a case of Remington building guns with whatever parts they had on hand.
 
I have seen quite a few old 870s with the short forend that is the same as the current police one. They can't all have had different forends swapped or be police guns with swapped barrels. Both types of ribbed forends seem to be reasonably common on guns built after about the mid to late '50s (early guns used a different forend with a round cross-section). It might be a case of Remington building guns with whatever parts they had on hand.

Why not?? They made like 12 million of them now. That foreend was also used on slug guns etc, military used a ton of them just look at the volumes they supplied for nam and lots ended up military surplus
They sold too quick for remington to have old stock kicking around for more than a few months
Many years ago I had the pleasure of visiting the factory where the 870's we being made and it was unreal the daily volumes being pushed out the door
Cheers
 
Believe the term "furniture" means something different to the tactical crowd.... It means stocks to me.... Have never used furniture polish on metal before.....

Nice pics of some nice old guns..... Love the 870's...
 
Here is a one of the 72 mail outs even the starting price is higher at $124.95. Not sure what year you have

The one I have the picture of does not have the checkering and has the groved forend.It is listed as the AP Grade in the flyer.It is from a 1972 flyer.That I know for sure, as it came in the 1972 catalogue that I ordered at the time and kept all these years.Was thinking of buying one at the time.

If I was more into computers I could post a picture,but that is way beyond my computer skills.
 
The one I have the picture of does not have the checkering and has the groved forend.It is listed as the AP Grade in the flyer.It is from a 1972 flyer.That I know for sure, as it came in the 1972 catalogue that I ordered at the time and kept all these years.Was thinking of buying one at the time.

If I was more into computers I could post a picture,but that is way beyond my computer skills.

God knows. :)Did you read the write up I sent
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Hello Mac.Read part of it ,but not all.Very interesting read .Thank-you for sending it.

The flyer I have is number E 7204.On the front page ,of the four page flyer, at the top it reads,"Now a special 4 gun group of Remington shotguns and rifles priced to give you greater value at a lower cost ."Below that is a picture of the Model 870 AP Grade,a little write up on the shotgun ,the prices and the specifications.

At the back bottom of the flyer it says,"Remington Arms of Canada Limited, 45 Taymall Avenue,Toronto 550,Ontario
 
Why not?? They made like 12 million of them now. That foreend was also used on slug guns etc, military used a ton of them just look at the volumes they supplied for nam and lots ended up military surplus
They sold too quick for remington to have old stock kicking around for more than a few months
Many years ago I had the pleasure of visiting the factory where the 870's we being made and it was unreal the daily volumes being pushed out the door
Cheers

I would say that at any given gun show I have attended and perused the selection of old 870s, it's a toss-up between which of the two forend types is more common. I would say that is too common for them all to be swapped.

As far as I know, US military-issued 870s have not been released as surplus to the public. The single most common shotgun used in the Vietnam War was actually the Stevens Model 77, with about 60,000 purchased. These are not common today, as many were left behind when the US left.
 
I would say that at any given gun show I have attended and perused the selection of old 870s, it's a toss-up between which of the two forend types is more common. I would say that is too common for them all to be swapped.

As far as I know, US military-issued 870s have not been released as surplus to the public. The single most common shotgun used in the Vietnam War was actually the Stevens Model 77, with about 60,000 purchased. These are not common today, as many were left behind when the US left.

There were lots of 870's there also. Marines converted 100% to the 870 in 1966 plus most of the special forces did also
All I know is I tore the US sites apart trying to find one of the 870 Vietnam 50th Anniversary Tribute Remington® Shotguns and could not get one
Some nice IMO
 
There were lots of 870's there also. Marines converted 100% to the 870 in 1966 plus most of the special forces did also
All I know is I tore the US sites apart trying to find one of the 870 Vietnam 50th Anniversary Tribute Remington® Shotguns and could not get one
Some nice IMO

Just as an aside, the U.S. Army Ordnance Dept. issued Order No. 17074 on Aug. 7, 1941, which standardized the following shotguns for “riot and sporting use”: Winchester Model 97, Winchester Model 12, Ithaca Model 37, Remington Model 31 and Savage M620. Obviously this pre-dates the Model 870.

From American Rifleman:

The most widely issued shotguns during the Southeast Asia conflict were the Ithaca Model 37 and Stevens Model 77E. While issued in large numbers, the Model 77E was plagued by some nagging reliability problems, but the Model 37 generally gave excellent service and was highly regarded by the majority of its users. By the late 1960s, newer designs, including the Remington Model 870 and Winchester Model 1200, came on the scene, and most of the Model 37s (and 77Es) were eventually withdrawn from military service.
 
They were called a ADL model plain wood to keep the cost down

ADL is the early deluxe version with machine-cut checkering made prior to the introduction of the fleur-de-lis pressed checkering in 1963. This is what they look like:

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This police wood that is a dime a dozen in some areas as stated earlier here, could someone please help the member in the EE looking for some with his WTB listing. He just bumped it for the 18th time and doesn't look like he is too fussy on condition. I would help but only have one set installed on a gun of "true police wood" out of may be 24 sets or more of wingmaster stock sets I own between guns and extra parts AP style is common here, police wood not so much in this area but we never had large numbers of law enforcement either like the big cities using them.
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