2CentTactical
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Im loving my little fire breathing shorty rifle.
Bought my first AR - NEA in 7.62x39
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OldFrankHog
CGN frequent flyer
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- Gatineau QC
If it's at 100 yards that is impressive ...
Should have mentioned that, 100yrds.
redshooter
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- Central Ontario
This shouldn't be a surprise, several of the most inherently accurate cartridges known are based on the 7.62X39. MOA with good components and handloads should be possible in a well built DI rifle.
Excellent vid. I have the same UTG mount for my Vortex. Rock solid and cheap!
Been on the fence for QD scope mount, but I might look at the Burris.
I hate to be a grouch but you should put that scope and mount on a scale. Should be around 29.3 ounces, or 1.8 pounds.
My 1-4x scope and mount come in at 12.4 ounces.
Not a fan of the PEPR or the Bushy AR scopes for that reason (yes I've owned both), they are like taping a brick to the top of the rifle. I guess if you are only benching it doesn't matter.
My 1-4x scope and mount come in at 12.4 ounces.
Not a fan of the PEPR or the Bushy AR scopes for that reason (yes I've owned both), they are like taping a brick to the top of the rifle. I guess if you are only benching it doesn't matter.
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Yep def a heavy package. You hit the nail on the head though, when bench shooting its not an issue. If we were able to hunt with ARs I would invest in a much lighter package.
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let me understand this.
- This is your first AR.
- After significant research, you settled on NEA, despite a lengthy history with a poor track record and quality control issues.
- It took not less than five rounds before the rifle suffered a catastrophic failure, sending the charging handle into (and impacting?) your face.
- the manufacturer did not replace the entire upper receiver; instead electing to replace select parts.
- damages to the original finish when received were not corrected, even after the manufacturer had the opportunity to do so after the rifle suffered a catastrophic failure.
After all of this, not only do you allow others (friends and family?) to shoot this rifle, you actually recommend the manufacturer's rifles for purchase?
Is that an accurate summary so far?
I have to say, I'm completely baffled by this thread and some of the posts in it.
I would say thats accurate.
That being said he is my take on those points:
- Yes this is my first AR, and in my first post I mention some of the reasons I decided to buy it. I wasn't looking for a high quality rifle, I went out and found the cheapest AR in 7.62x39 so I could burn through my inventory of surplus ammo. Self admitted novice so take everything within this thread from me with a grain of salt.
- From my research NEA had a bad track record with its rifles up to the current generation of rifle, which I was told I was purchasing. I ended up getting a 2014 production rifle with the previous generations BCG, barrel and barrel extension. In my research I also found they have a lifetime warranty - which so far has given me good service.
- It did indeed fail after the 5th round I fired, causing the charging handle to give me a little smack in the face.
- They only replaced the parts that caused and were damaged by the failure. From a purely business point of view this makes sense, from a customer service perspecitve it does not.
- Damages to the finish were not repaired when they had an excellent opportuity to be a hero. To be fair I didn't ask for them to fix this, I asked to have the rifle back ASAP. I'm not one who cares about small blemishes, it was sad to see on a brand new rifle, I've now added some character to rifle myself. I had the opportunity to look the rifle over when I picked it up and I didn't take it. Lesson learned.
After all of this I have put over 1500 rounds through the rifle, some of which have been shot by friends yes. I trust the rifle is safe to shoot and no longer worry about failures. The rifle was test fired quite a bit before it came back to me based on the wear I found on the BCG. I don't live in a state of paranoia with this rifle, it works now.
Yes I would reccomend the rifle for someone looking for a budget AR in 7.62x39. I received a rifle with bad parts, yes - I havent heard of someone with a Gen 2 (2015 production or newer) having any problems. As mentioned before I chose a beatup rifle made in 2014 sold to me as a Gen 2. I suppose I should be more clear in my endorsement, I would reccomend the purchase of an NEA15 in 7.62x39 as long as it has a production date of 2015 or newer. In the serial number the 3rd and 4th number is the year of production. Example: serial# NEA1514######XX = 2014 production. Serial # NEA1516######X = 2016 production.
I totally understand where you are coming from, I'm sure if I were on the outside looking in I would feel similar. Fact of the matter is I was the one who held that rifle in front of my face and had the failure, it wasnt as exciting as everyone is imagining it in their minds. It sounded not too different than a normal shot, and at first it wasnt apparent it had failed. That failure if it were to happen again would not be deadly or injure me, and them replacing my previous bolt with the current production further stregthens my belief that the '15+ production rifles are solid and not typical NEA.
I plan on continuing this thread as a long term review, I really appreciate everyones feedback and support through this - its been quite the learning experience!
PitBull1973
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If you try something 17 ounces lighter and pick up your rifle you might think differently. Your Vortex is probably not as much of a pig as the Bushnell though.
My point is why carry all that heft when you don't have to?
2 pounds for optics? wha?
I will agree lighter is better however when using 150 or 165grn projectiles I found my previous mount loosing zero. This barrel is helical fluted and the MI rail combination helps remove ounces. I guess That cancels the extra weight from the PEPR.
