Hunting Rig with a Bull Barrel (1.25" straight contour)

My .221 Fireball weighs about 20 lbs. It's a Hart action with a 28" Kreiger Heavy Varmint contour. The stock is a big chunk of lumber; but it's actually pretty light.

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Since you haven't given gour actual hunt application, I will say this..... I prefer light rifles but have carried all kind of weights....

IMOP, balance is more important than weight...... It's hard for a heavy battled rifle to be balanced without an equally heavy stock.... I would rather carry a well balanced heavy rifle than a poorly balanced light rifle......

Very good point
 
Guys with sharps have done it for 150 years and hawked ML were not light. 😀😊 My go to rifle is a Ruger 77V in 280. these are not the easiest or best hunting guns for long walks, but they work and put the bullet wher it should be. If you are in coulees or Rockies then I would look for something much lighter. Your choice.
 
Nowarning has it right with the "bean field" thing and only if every shot you envision can be a supported rest situation. Moving or free hand shots become very difficult to almost impossible . If you want to get feel for what freehand shooting is like with a heavy barrel before you spend the money, find an old industrial crow bar and head out across your hunting area, after carrying that thing for a while try to "freehand" hold it up steady on an imaginary target for a minute or so. If you need to hit something in the eye at 100 yrds and have a rest, the heavy barrel will work wonderfuly but if you need to hit a "trotting along" 200 inch WT at 400 yrds the last thing I would want is a heavy barrel.

I know where your going with this thought process but it's been done and tried by many people before us and there is a reason why millions of hunting rifles are manufactured and sold in the configuration they are...likewise there is a reason target rifles are manufactured in the configuration they are...while a slight overlap (the eye shot at 100 yrds) is possible,quite simply they both work best in their own world.
 
Just ordered in a 1.25" straight contour barrel. It's fluted, but I know that won't cut too much weight off. I have a stiller tac30 on order as well to go with the barrel. Plan is to try to make the rifle as light as possible. Thinking of doing either a 22 or 23" barrel...I was entertaining a 24", but I think that would just be a little too front heavy. Thinking of a Manners Elite Tactical stock with PTG bottom metal.
Any suggestions on lightweight stocks or parts that would help me out?
Thanks
Ben

The problem you'll encounter with this approach is that the rifle will not only be heavy for typical big game hunting, it will also be poorly balanced. I have a 20 pound target rifle that interests me not in the least when it comes hiking around looking for game. Cutting the 28" barrel down to 20" wouldn't change my point of view one bit. If you intend to use a full diameter barrel, you might as well have some weight in the stock to help with balance, not that you'll be shooting this thing off hand anyway. If your chambering is for an overbore cartridge, barrel lengths of less than 24" can adversely impact the ballistics you anticipate; if you're going with something more along the lines of a .308, a short barrel is somewhat more appropriate. Your gunsmith might have a computer program that allows him to calculate the optimal balance based on barrel length and stock length and weight. There's nothing wrong with spending big money on one rifle that you can use for a broad range of shooting applications. But the heavier the rifle is, the less you can conveniently do with it, whereas a lighter rifle gives up little on the target, provided you're not shooting competitively, or firing multiple rounds without allowing the barrel to cool. In a big game hunting scenario where a shot or two does the deed, nothing is gained by choosing the heavy barrel.

So how can you hunt with this rig once it's made? You can shoot from a blind or a stand over bait. You can shoot from a prone position taken some distance away from a treeline as deer emerge to feed in the field. Or if you have the skills and the support equipment, you can give long range game shooting a try.
 
Balance is important. I prefer muzzle up carry and with a light stock/heavy barrel the damn thing is always swinging down. If that heavy barrel is what pleases you though then go for it.
 
Does anyone out there hunt with a bull barrel/heavy straight contour barrel. I know it is probably not the best option, but just wondering if there is anyone out there who has made this functionable?
Any advice whatsoever would be appreciated!

Thanks
Ben

Are you planning on hunting from a fixed blind or walking? In this South Shore country I'd rather have a sore ass than a 25lb rifle trying to get through the bush. If you're sitting over apples or a large field you could get away with it but it would be a pretty specialized rig.
 
Spends on the application and the amount of walking involved...... I have no issue carrying one, but they are less manoeuvrable and not as quick to point..... But I would have no issue bringing one predator or groundhog hunting......

Id say balance and ergonomics are more of a pointing issue then bull barrel or not.

Depends on how good of shape you're in and how much the rest of the rifle components(stock, action, scope, etc) weigh. That being said, I've hunted with some heavy rifles in the 11-13lb range and I didn't have any problems with field hunting or hunting in the foothills. If you were going to be heading up a mountain probably not the best idea. How long is the barrel? What does the rest of the rifle look like? I'm assuming it's a custom because I don't know of any manufacturer that sells a rifle with a barrel contour that thick.

Eh physical abilities aside its up to preference.

They all go bang, it depends how well you can use it.
 
Spends on the application and the amount of walking involved...... I have no issue carrying one, but they are less manoeuvrable and not as quick to point..... But I would have no issue bringing one predator or groundhog hunting......

The plan is to use it at a vantage point over fields/bait piles. I don't plan on using this rifle on game stalks.

Your fine, rock your HB rifle and enjoy the long distance game taking ! its a hoot !
 
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