m1 Garand value??

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First off, sorry but I have no pictures as Im out of town working. What I need to know is what is the ruff value of a 1944 winchester Garand? And what should I be looking for on the gun (does the bolt sn supposed to match, ect.). The gun was one of the Belgian ones that showed up in Canada 15 or so years ago. The stock was refinished but the rest of it is mint. Thanks for any info.
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If you are looking for a correct, as left the factory rifle, all the parts on a Winchester are specific to Winchester. There are dimensional, manufacturing and finish differences on virtually all Winchester made parts that aid in identification. There is no factory serial number on any Garand bolts. The drawing number (and heat/steel lot on SA bolts) is the number you see. It may have an electro-pen hand written number, but that is a European thing, not the way it left the factory. All Winchester bolts have the drawing number D28287-1 W.R.A. Just to add some fun into the parts sourcing, there were 2 variations of bolt made by Winchester. Depending on your serial number, it may have virtually all parts marked with a drawing number, or in latter production models, very few other than the reciever, barrel, bolt, oprod, hammer and trigger housing.

A parts rifle or mix-master that happens to have a Winchester Reciever is of no special value by itself. $1000-1200 if you are a cautious and patient buyer. If the rifle has been carefully restored with proper period parts (becoming increasingly hard to do, especially for Winchesters) it can command significant value in the $2000-3000 range. All originals with provenance can fetch near $5000 US.

If you need any assistance identifying components, IM me.

Hope that helps...
 
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http://usriflecal30m1.com/Default.aspx <---- this is a great sight for garand info, type in you serial # located on the heel stamp and it will give you a list of the correct parts that were on the rifle when it left factory, keep in mind a lot of these rifles were rebuilt after ww2 and korea, and also general condition and function plays a big part in the value of the rifle, average price for average M1's on here of mixed manufactures go for usually $1000 - $1400. No other drawing/parts #'s on the rifle will match the serial # on the heel. although sometimes the serial # was stamped into the inside of the stock.

CeeJay
 
CeeJay said:
http://usriflecal30m1.com/Default.aspx <---- this is a great sight for garand info,

although sometimes the serial # was stamped into the inside of the stock.

CeeJay
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Just to clarify, no US rifles had their serial numbers stamped on or inside of their stocks. This was a European practice. The only stocks having a numbers were International Harvester and Winchester. In the IHC case, it is a Julian date of manufacturer by the sub-contractor. Not all have it either. I have an IHC all original, no stamp. On Winchesters, a 2 or 3 digit code was stamped at the end of the stock under the ferrule. The true meaning of the Winchester stamps is unknown.
 
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Some people are into building up a Garand using one of the comparatively inexpensive Danish surplus receivers that are available nowadays. The sum of the parts to build up a Garand is currently around $1400-$1500, and the exchange rate isn't helping. One thing is for sure, they are in demand and they are no longer available on the retail market. There haven't been any new ones made since 1956.
 
purple said:
Some people are into building up a Garand using one of the comparatively inexpensive Danish surplus receivers that are available nowadays. The sum of the parts to build up a Garand is currently around $1400-$1500, and the exchange rate isn't helping. One thing is for sure, they are in demand and they are no longer available on the retail market. There haven't been any new ones made since 1956.
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i thought you could get a new one from springfield a couple of years ago?
 
Iv'e got one that's 1944 built at Springfield no other country markings on it, is it worth anything more because its a Springfield? I bought all new wood for it about 15 years ago from Springfield , had a hand rubbed oil finish applied to it, it looks absolutely beautiful, the wood is a nice walnut, not the cosmoline soaked wood that the originals had. Don't know if that killed the potential collectors value ,but it looks much better.
 
Gldnbear said:
i thought you could get a new one from springfield a couple of years ago?
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There is a difference between the military rifles originally made at the US Springfield Armory and those made recently by a commercial firm using the same name. The original military rifles had forged receivers. The current replicas are built on cast receivers. The last production US military Garands were made in 1956 altho Springfield Armory did produce a limited number into 1957. I've handled and shot a modern reproduction from Springfield and it was OK, but they aren't original military rifles. Comparing a modern reproduction and the original military rifle is kind of an apples and oranges comparison.

Different rifles have a different appeal. Collectors seem to prefer the WW2 vintage Springfields and Winchesters because of the historical aspects. Some folks like the post-war IHCs, HRAs or Springfields based on their interests. The fact is that all makes of military Garands passed military acceptance checks and quality standards. The Italian made Beretta and Bredas were built to a high standard and are an excellent basis for a shooter. They don't seem to have the same level of collector appeal as do the US made rifles.
 
CeeJay said:
http://usriflecal30m1.com/Default.aspx <---- this is a great sight for garand info, type in you serial # located on the heel stamp and it will give you a list of the correct parts that were on the rifle when it left factory, keep in mind a lot of these rifles were rebuilt after ww2 and korea, and also general condition and function plays a big part in the value of the rifle, average price for average M1's on here of mixed manufactures go for usually $1000 - $1400. No other drawing/parts #'s on the rifle will match the serial # on the heel. although sometimes the serial # was stamped into the inside of the stock.

CeeJay
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That is a good site, I'm checking out my guns now. Thanks
 
You're Welcome, I used this sight a reference to check out my Springfield, then went about hunting down the few of the parts that did not match, got all of em now except the barrel.... seems 1944 Barrel's are kinda rare these days :cool:



tootall said:
That is a good site, I'm checking out my guns now. Thanks
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CeeJay said:
You're Welcome, I used this sight a reference to check out my Springfield, then went about hunting down the few of the parts that did not match, got all of em now except the barrel.... seems 1944 Barrel's are kinda rare these days :cool:
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1944 I believe is the year on my barrel. I should go look at it again but I'm pretty sure.
 
ramhunter said:
M-1 Garands are WORTH about $450- 500
what they are SELLING for is another story. step right up and get ripped off for $1500 if you like.
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A rifle is worth what someone is willing to pay for it.
A CMP Field Grade Garand (Fair to Good) is $630 USD
A CMP Service Grade Garand (Good to Very Good) is $730 USD
CMP Rifles are only sold to US Citizens who are not supposed to resell them.
A complete trigger group alone is worth $250 USD
A complete rear sight is worth $150 USD
A compete TRW bolt is worth around $350 CDN
Armtac is selling a mixed parts kit for $1,000 CDN

Using the above criteria your estimates are extremely low.
If you want to compare current $500 rifles you will be looking at a decent 22LR.
You can't even buy a Norinco M305 for that price.
 
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