Am I over annealing?

[kawicrash]

I wanted to get some opinions if I am over annealing these cases.
I do it by hand, so the case isn't getting too hot to hold, definitely not turning red or glowing at all, I would estimate 5-6 seconds with a standard propane torch, then dropped into water.

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[roadcarver]

I'm no expert but from what I've seen in youtube vids researching annealing, usually colour change is not a reliable indicator of annealing.

Are you using tempilaq?

 

[yomomma]

Only way...tempilaq

 

[Eagleye]

What I am seeing by color progression down past the shoulder, is a bit of variance in the time the heat has been applied.
Cases 1 & 3 show more time in the flame than the rest. [#6 slightly more than 2,4 & 5]

Consistency will always yield the best results. I would not say they are "over annealed" but the difference in
the heat line would concern me. A bit more consistency, and a pattern like #3 case on all is what I am seeing
when I anneal my cases, using tempilaq.

Regards, Dave.

 

[Alpheus]

I echo the previous comments; this is no place for guesswork. Temp indicating laquer or crayons are cheap and easily available.

 

[kawicrash]

I echo the previous comments; this is no place for guesswork. Temp indicating laquer or crayons are cheap and easily available.

Where is a good place to get them?

 

[stubblejumper]

Is that a crack on the far left case?

 

[Sqr]

You are if it is getting cherry red.

 

[roadcarver]

Got mine from sourcewelding.com out in Windsor.

Where is a good place to get them?

 

[Galt]

Where is a good place to get them?

You local Praxair store or welding supply store will carry them

 

[kawicrash]

You local Praxair store or welding supply store will carry them

Thanks, I'll check it out. What temperature? 750?

 

[roadcarver]

Personally picked up the 700F. Search on YouTube video "annealing on the cheap".

Should be the 1st on the search hit list.

Thanks, I'll check it out. What temperature? 750?

 

[kawicrash]

Personally picked up the 700F. Search on YouTube video "annealing on the cheap".

Should be the 1st on the search hit list.

Thanks

 

[ryan]

When I first started annealing cases, I over annealed a few on purpose. I could easily squash them between thumb and forefinger. Done properly, I could see a bit of give, but they would spring back.
Even if you over did the case mouths a bit much, they will harden back up after a few firings.

 

[kawicrash]

Ok. I can't sqash them at all, so that's a positive.

 

[bigedp51]

Is that a crack on the far left case?

I'm going to guess he is using a Lee Collet dieand what you are seeing is the gaps between the collet.

 

[freire]

When I first started annealing cases, I over annealed a few on purpose. I could easily squash them between thumb and forefinger. Done properly, I could see a bit of give, but they would spring back.
Even if you over did the case mouths a bit much, they will harden back up after a few firings.

I'm with Ryan on this

 

[kawicrash]

I'm going to guess he is using a Lee Collet dieand what you are seeing is the gaps between the collet.

Yes to the Lee collet dies, but the one case does have a black ring around the shoulder, but it's not a crack.

 

[Qball-16]

When I first started annealing cases, I over annealed a few on purpose. I could easily squash them between thumb and forefinger. Done properly, I could see a bit of give, but they would spring back.
Even if you over did the case mouths a bit much, they will harden back up after a few firings.

I'm far from an annealing expert, but this seems like dangerously bad advice to me.

Yes, I suppose they could harden up after a few firings, but they could also catastrophically fail, putting the shooter and anyone around him/her in serious danger.

 

[litledab]

I was wondering with the tempilap what temperature do u guys use and were do u place it on the case ??