SX3 magazine damage

My memory span is about 20 mins, but if I recall correctly, I met you at Ellwood Epps a few years back. You were looking for a beretta sxs if I recall correctly

Indeed. I think it was a Silver Hawk priced less than it should have been. I had already been in to look at it the day before, I should have bought it.
 
I would think that the magazine tube would last more than 4300 rounds. Now these Challenger T20 are pretty potent. I got them cheap because my buddy was worried because Briley told him that they could damage his tubes. I figured that wouldn't be a big deal for a gas gun. Well, no worries, one box left and I won't use them again.

Not familiar with these t20 what the hell are they reloaded with to make them so potent. No recall or anything on them years ago was there
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Only on the later produced 12ga. I am guessing 2009 up. First ones had the ring that is the winchester x3 mind you I am not sure if silver follows that or not
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I dont think the Silver followed that. I have an early model...purchased in 2006. Its an early run silver that came with a barrel stamped Browning Gold. From what I understand, the early run Silver's were fitted with the left over barrel blanks from the 12g Browning Golds. Either way, it doesnt have that type of mag tube. Now whether Browning used left over mag tubes from the old Gold inventory is something I'm unsure of.
 
I dont think the Silver followed that. I have an early model...purchased in 2006. Its an early run silver that came with a barrel stamped Browning Gold. From what I understand, the early run Silver's were fitted with the left over barrel blanks from the 12g Browning Golds. Either way, it doesnt have that type of mag tube. Now whether Browning used left over mag tubes from the old Gold inventory is something I'm unsure of.

No experience with the silver. I bought new golds as far back as 93 I think and still have them
They are tanks IMO
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Not familiar with these t20 what the hell are they reloaded with to make them so potent. No recall or anything on them years ago was there
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They are factory loads, the box even advertises non-corrosive primers. I only consider them potent because of the warning from Briley and the fact they actually deform the case head at the ejector relief on the bolt face. I wish I had a photo of a the deformed case head to show you. I am sure the issue is some combination of gun oil, powder residue, heat from the gasses and time. Maybe I put it away without cleaning it well and it just oxidized. I used my pump gun a lot last year and rarely used the SX3.

It's all academic now, as I have to replace the parts if I want a safe firearm. There is a pinhole under the brass ring and I can see exhaust gas marks on the magazine plug. I am surprise that the brass is corroded too though. I will just have to be more diligent in the future.



I dont think the Silver followed that. I have an early model...purchased in 2006. Its an early run silver that came with a barrel stamped Browning Gold. From what I understand, the early run Silver's were fitted with the left over barrel blanks from the 12g Browning Golds. Either way, it doesnt have that type of mag tube. Now whether Browning used left over mag tubes from the old Gold inventory is something I'm unsure of.

This makes sense as the SX3 is based on the Browning Gold short impulse action.
 
Thanks for the pic. I have shot tons of those over the years but mostly 28ga never had an issue with them at all
The t20 was what I never heard them called. In fact I would bet there is still some here if I look hard enough
Cannot see them being the problem but who knows. My first thought was gun put away wet but hard to say
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Thanks for the pic. I have shot tons of those over the years but mostly 28ga never had an issue with them at all
The t20 was what I never heard them called. In fact I would bet there is still some here if I look hard enough
Cannot see them being the problem
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I think a lot of people have shot these just fine. I am surprised that the brass and aluminum corroded so much I guess. I plenty of people who shoot these Challenger loads in the 20 and 28 gauges without problem too.
 
I think a lot of people have shot these just fine. I am surprised that the brass and aluminum corroded so much I guess. I plenty of people who shoot these Challenger loads in the 20 and 28 gauges without problem too.

Like you say really doesn't matter now but I would be checking it after every outing in the future
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That's the take away. Expensive lesson to learn I guess.

Agree but is could have been worse and damaged more of the gas system
Many may think I am crazy but even one round fired I take it home and clean the gun prior to going away doesn't take that long
IMO that is why guns I bought in the mid 60's still look like new
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Agree but is could have been worse and damaged more of the gas system
Many may think I am crazy but even one round fired I take it home and clean the gun prior to going away doesn't take that long
IMO that is why guns I bought in the mid 60's still look like new
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I'm the same way usually. So I am not even sure what happened here; I guess I put it away and forgot about it.
 
I'm the same way usually. So I am not even sure what happened here; I guess I put it away and forgot about it.

Don't knock yourself . God knows what really took place just really watch it now which I know you will
No idea how hard the mag tube is to change on one of those. If threaded I find a heat gun helps when I do them on the old superx-1's not sure if it would help in your case or not
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My concern is damaging the permacote finish with heat. The original white bead broke off and I needed a gunsmiths help to take out the stud. He used heat from a torch on the barrel to do this and it ruined the finish at the muzzle. I can probably use an electric heat gun from the inside of the tube somehow. I also have the option of chilling the tube to shrink it a bit but I don't know if that is a good idea. If Winchester used something like Loctite then I might be boned here. Otherwise, yeah, it should just thread out.
 
My concern is damaging the permacote finish with heat. The original white bead broke off and I needed a gunsmiths help to take out the stud. He used heat from a torch on the barrel to do this and it ruined the finish at the muzzle. I can probably use an electric heat gun from the inside of the tube somehow. I also have the option of chilling the tube to shrink it a bit but I don't know if that is a good idea. If Winchester used something like Loctite then I might be boned here. Otherwise, yeah, it should just thread out.

If you are having a hard time getting the old mag tube unthreaded, try drilling a hole through it and putting a screwdriver through the hole to use it as a handle to get some leverage when twisting it. The old mag tube is junk anyway, so its doesnt matter if it gets ruined taking it out. I'd be more concerned with damaging something you dont want damaged.
 
If you are having a hard time getting the old mag tube unthreaded, try drilling a hole through it and putting a screwdriver through the hole to use it as a handle to get some leverage when twisting it. The old mag tube is junk anyway, so its doesnt matter if it gets ruined taking it out. I'd be more concerned with damaging something you dont want damaged.

That is a good point. See for me with the old super x-1 they are still good if I rotate them so don't want to drill them since they are not junk
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My concern is damaging the permacote finish with heat. The original white bead broke off and I needed a gunsmiths help to take out the stud. He used heat from a torch on the barrel to do this and it ruined the finish at the muzzle. I can probably use an electric heat gun from the inside of the tube somehow. I also have the option of chilling the tube to shrink it a bit but I don't know if that is a good idea. If Winchester used something like Loctite then I might be boned here. Otherwise, yeah, it should just thread out.

That was why I use the heat gun to protect the bluing which it does over a torch but I have no idea how it will act on that permacote finish
I would bet the farm there is some form of thread locker used even the old super x1's from the 70's has it
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To the OP does your sx3 eject the shells along ways . the Silver I had , had crazy ejection distance 12 to 15 feet away with target loads . I am just wondering if the spring in side the piston is to stiff an not regulating the gas pressure correctly causing excessive pressure .
 
To the OP does your sx3 eject the shells along ways . the Silver I had , had crazy ejection distance 12 to 15 feet away with target loads . I am just wondering if the spring in side the piston is to stiff an not regulating the gas pressure correctly causing excessive pressure .

Oh yeah, they sure do fly. I'd say that 12 to 15 feet is about right. This has always been the case though.
 
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