I've ripped the case rim off a few 9mm cases using carbide dies dry. For this reason I am considering using some lanolin based lubricant. As for the 9mm major question, Google has PLENTY of information, basically 9mm loaded real hot (well past the max loadings but still relatively safe if done properly )
Potentially Stupid Question - Reloading 9 mm
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It`s an IPSC Open load, using 9mm instead of .38 super or super comp.
I use a Lee Classic turret press and carbide dies. Have put close to 10K rounds through it. I have never lubed a case. The majority of the rounds I load are my own cases, but I also reuse rounds picked up at IPSC matches (some of which are major loads) and have never had issues. I recently started loading 45ACP and do not lube those cases neither.
I use car polish in my tumbler when cleaning the brass, so my cases may be a little slicker then most
I use car polish in my tumbler when cleaning the brass, so my cases may be a little slicker then most
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Pretty much anything that makes the cases slippery and not gum up the works will suffice..
9mm Major is 9mm loaded to meet major power factor for IPSC Open Class.
I find that the lube doesn't have to be removed from pistol cases, as there is not much left behind. That said, I use isopropyl alcohol and a towel. The loaded rounds go on the towel, I wet them with a small amount of alcohol, and I grab both ends of the towel to form a sort of hammock and roll the rounds back and forth. This is a pretty quick process and makes the rounds cleaner to handle.
If you're using Remington Action Cleaner, It is basically naptha (lighter fluid) in an aerosol can, according the MSDS. Either isopropyl alcohol or non-chlorinated brake cleaner are cheaper alternatives that do the same thing.
I use carbide dies in 9mm and find they load much easier with a little lube. I tumble the ammo for an hour to clean up the lube afterwards.
In other pistol calibres I find the carbide dies work just fine with no lube. Only 9mm seems to benefit.
In other pistol calibres I find the carbide dies work just fine with no lube. Only 9mm seems to benefit.
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what he says^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This surprises me. I've reloaded literally thousands of 9mm rounds on my Loadmaster (not to mention many thousands more of 38 Spec, 40 S&W & 45 ACP) and have NEVER ripped a rim off any of them. However, I am religious about tumbling my brass sparking clean before it goes into the sizing die and I think this helps a lot. It only stands to reason that clean cases will create a lot less friction than cases that are soiled with a buildup of powder residue, range dust and anything else they might pick up in the shooting process. The thought of having to clean the lube off hundreds and hundreds of loaded rounds does not appeal to me in the least.
I have never needed to clean the Hornady one shot off of my loaded ammo. It is such a thin coat I don't notice it when handling my completed rounds. As stated before, it isn't necessary with carbide dies but it does make things go a lot smoother. Sometimes I get lazy and don't bother with the lube if only doing a quick run but I sure notice it takes more effort on the ram.
Auggie D.
Auggie D.
I have loaded well over 250k rounds in 25 years, never lubed any pistol brass.
i always made sure my dies were always clean, and the brass was tumbled before loading.
just recently noticed that the decapping pin is loose on some RCBS dies, my Hornaday are still in great shape.
Just an extra step to do in my book.
i always made sure my dies were always clean, and the brass was tumbled before loading.
just recently noticed that the decapping pin is loose on some RCBS dies, my Hornaday are still in great shape.
Just an extra step to do in my book.
X2 My typical reloading session is 1000 rounds. Make sure the cases are clean and sparkly and I don't have any problems. Cleaning that many rounds is simply too much of a pain in the butt. Every now and then I do a full every dimension cartridge check and the dimensions haven't changed since the first check I did way back when, like to 1/1000" so clearly not much wear on the dies.
I don't use anything. For myself I lube the cases by spritzing a bit of lube onto a folded over paper towel in a small cookie sheet tray. I roll a handful of cases around on this for a couple of seconds and dump it into the bucket for loading. Repeat until they are all done for up to around 500 cases. The amount used by this method is so little it almost can't be felt. But it's enough to ease the lever pull to a great amount.
Because I'm using so little I don't bother cleaning it away. It's never been an issue even on ammo sitting around even for more than a year.
If you're noticing a sticky residue you're either using too much or might want to try something else that doesn't become sticky over time.
I've done it with lube sometimes. Is it worth the extra step? Some days it seems to be, other days not.
I use a spray made from Kiwi Neutral shoe polish and Coleman Camp Fuel (basically naptha with a little lube in it), and use the "spray in a bag, add cases, shake, repeat" method. I usually get about 3 bag-fuls to a single application of lube spray.
I don't bother to remove it. Once it dries you can barely feel it.
I use a spray made from Kiwi Neutral shoe polish and Coleman Camp Fuel (basically naptha with a little lube in it), and use the "spray in a bag, add cases, shake, repeat" method. I usually get about 3 bag-fuls to a single application of lube spray.
I don't bother to remove it. Once it dries you can barely feel it.
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Same story here. A Lee Progressive 1000 with over 10,000 rounds loaded through it as well. Never used lube, never had a hiccup.
