Colt Modular Carbine should be Non-Restricted but is there an FRT yet?

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While searching online I stumbled across the CM901 and CK901. Does anyone have any additional info on these. They appear to use AR components but not accept AR uppers.
 
Look like AR = AR.

Accept some common parts from AR = AR.

I don't know why the CMR should be NR, it's an AR platform so Restricted.
 
After some digging online they utilize an adaptor to accept standard AR uppers so definitely a Variant and would be restricted.

I guess the Modern Hunter will stay on top of my list.

This should still have a unique FRT# if currently in Canada.
 
BioPace said:
Look like AR = AR.

Accept some common parts from AR = AR.

I don't know why the CMR should be NR, it's an AR platform so Restricted.
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thats not how it works

if an AR15 upper can be mated to the receiver in some manner, even taped and zippy tied, and it fires just once, then the lower receiver its classed as an AR15 variant.

accepting some ar15 parts or looking like an AR15 has nothing to do with it at all
 
mikethebike said:
thats not how it works

if an AR15 upper can be mated to the receiver in some manner, even taped and zippy tied, and it fires just once, then the lower receiver its classed as an AR15 variant.

accepting some ar15 parts or looking like an AR15 has nothing to do with it at all
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Has 0% parts compatibility with AR15. Is restricted because "hurr durr it's an AR":

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Is not an AK. Shares no parts with an AK. Barely looks like an AK. Is prohibited because "hurr durr it's an AK":

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and probably the most painful of them all is the GSG 5. Not one compatible part with an MP5 but it looks like one so.... prohib.

Moe
 
Blastattack said:
Has 0% parts compatibility with AR15. Is restricted because "hurr durr it's an AR":

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Is not an AK. Shares no parts with an AK. Barely looks like an AK. Is prohibited because "hurr durr it's an AK":

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Prohibited because they rely on the Mitchell Arms AK22 which is on the named list. Politicians banning guns on looks, and their undefined variants.

The ap74 is named prohibited too by oic. Not as a variant, by name.
 
fenceline said:
Prohibited because they rely on the Mitchell Arms AK22 which is on the named list. Politicians banning guns on looks, and their undefined variants.

The ap74 is named prohibited too by oic. Not as a variant, by name.
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The AP74 is named under the heading: 2 The firearm of the design commonly known as the M-16 rifle, and any variant or modified version of it, including the

The AP74 and AP80/AK22 are not related too each other as they use different internals.

The AK-alike I posted is a Mossberg Blaze 47, and is completely unrelated to anything.
 
Blastattack said:
The AP74 is named under the heading: 2 The firearm of the design commonly known as the M-16 rifle, and any variant or modified version of it, including the

The AP74 and AP80/AK22 are not related too each other as they use different internals.

The AK-alike I posted is a Mossberg Blaze 47, and is completely unrelated to anything.
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Mitchell Arms AK22. That is what they are relying on to prohibit the Blaze 47... and the Mitchell Arms is named in the OIC. Not saying I agree, but that is their argument.

And as for the internals of the OIC named Mitchell Arms AK22 and the variant prohib Armi Jager AP80, they are the same, seeing as they are off the same assembly line, at the same manufacturing facility, and they only changed the brand. The AP80 doesn't have to share parts with an AK47... it shares everything with the MA AK22, which is named, and thus is prohibited as a variant of that gun, and no other.

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Moe said:
and probably the most painful of them all is the GSG 5. Not one compatible part with an MP5 but it looks like one so.... prohib.

Moe
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I heard a rumour (from someone that had examined one) that supposedly if you affix the GSG5 lower to an MP5 upper (or possibly the other way around?), it works........

Just what I heard on the internet.....so it's gotta be true
 
Apparently none of the Colt 901 series have FRT numbers as I believe they are still in the lab for approval. So there must be some interesting background on these as if they were just a variant they would have been given an FRT long ago. Too bad Colt Canada is not on the forum much any more as it would have been interesting to get more details on these, they are listed on their site as well.
 
The more I look at these Colt 901 series rifles the more I am intrigued. They are a base 308 rifle that with an adapter can run a standard 556 upper. The lower in the eyes of the law is the firearm but these are not directly an AR lower then with the correct barrel length should be NR. Very interesting concept really but it would definitely depend on classification, which currently doesn't exist. Maybe waiting beside the ARX?
 
Call it an AR, you get the FRT right the way.

Call it something else, wait 2 to 3 years.

If you are an importer / distributor, and you can only squeeze 100 of these out of the US a year, there is no point to wait 2 to 3 years. You will just sell whatever you can get and make those who really want one happy.

There isn't any for anyone to buy even if they are non-restricted.
 
I am guessing that these are sitting beside the ARX, Troy PAR, and every other black rifle with potential to be Non-restricted. It would appear Colt was planning for a potential assault weapons ban and came out with the "Adaptive Carbine" using all your existing parts but with a unique serialized lower.

In now for the wait I guess.
 
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