opinions o a swager?

Anyone else finding the ring crimp in newer FC and Win brass necessitates crimp removal?

I'm finding myself outsorting RP and Norinco brass to use first for bulk 223 rather than spending the time to decrimp.

p.s. I use a CH4D swager which I find is faster than the RCBS tool since there is less movement of the ram.

Going through this right now with a 1000rd lot of mixed range brass. The only stuff that is not crimped is PMC. The NATO and LC is expected but all variations of the Federal, Winchester and Hornady are crimped. :mad: So yay for Korea.
 
Anyone else finding the ring crimp in newer FC and Win brass necessitates crimp removal?

I'm finding myself outsorting RP and Norinco brass to use first for bulk 223 rather than spending the time to decrimp.

p.s. I use a CH4D swager which I find is faster than the RCBS tool since there is less movement of the ram.

I have the CH4D and have trouble with bent rims, what is your secret to not bending the case rims?

The rim is the only thing supporting the case and even when it just enters the primer pocket mouth it bends the rims.
 
I have the CH4D and have trouble with bent rims, what is your secret to not bending the case rims?

It takes remarkably little pressure to swage the primer pocket. What I do is to adjust the die height so that the ram hits top-dead center when swaging pin completes the swaging operation but without bending the rims. It takes a little finangling but once set, swaging is as fast as you can change cases and move the press handle 45 degrees.
 
I bought an RCBS swager but found out the hard way it won't fit my Lee Classic Breach Lock Press. The oversized ram is too big for the swager shell release to fit over. :(

I just swage without it, then wiggle the case lightly and it comes right off. Bit of case lube on the nipple every 3-4 rounds eases the process as well.
I also check which brass actually needs a swage, and which can be done just with a turn of a chamfer tool. The majority of mil brass I have just needs the chamfer, some definitely need the swage like IVI.
On a related note I just bent the small rod (set is dated 1989) and I checked with RCBS to see if I could buy a couple spares, they said no worries and popped them off for free. Mighty fine of them...
 
Good to know. I emailed them about getting a larger extractor that will fit around my Lee Classic Cast Press. If they can't or won't send me one I'll look into this. I originally bought it with converting 7.62X54r steel cases to boxer by pressing 1/4" copper tube inserts in.
 
Just did the exact same thing. Damn you RCBS!!! Or is it Damn you Lee!!! I'm just not sure... :confused:

They never got back to me via email however when I called them today they said they were going to send me a new extractor that will fit the oversized Lee ram! It was a customer service at its best!
 
They never got back to me via email however when I called them today they said they were going to send me a new extractor that will fit the oversized Lee ram! It was a customer service at its best!

My latest "warranty" replacement took 2 months. Sent request in Jan, got it 2 days ago. Funny thing, it was posted marked March 29th. You may be in for a long wait.
 
A countersink bit in a drill is a cheap and fast way of removing primer crimps.

The Swage-It tool for the Dillon 550 or 650 presses looks attractive if you want to go faster.
 
email RCBS and they'll send you a larger case stripper for free.
you'll still have to clear some metal around the ram to make it work. But it's doable with no side effects.

Just did this for my Classic Cast. RCBS is shipping for free. Call them at 1-800-379-1732.

I called and asked if a larger stripper was available for hire, and he spit his coffee into the phone.
 
Just did this for my Classic Cast. RCBS is shipping for free. Call them at 1-800-379-1732.

I called and asked if a larger stripper was available for hire, and he spit his coffee into the phone.

Just and update if anyone searches for this later. I received the larger case stripper from RCBS today, approximately 30 days delivery time at no cost to me. Thanks RCBS.
 
A countersink bit in a drill is a cheap and fast way of removing primer crimps.

The Swage-It tool for the Dillon 550 or 650 presses looks attractive if you want to go faster.

This reminded me of the tool that I use to remove the crimp on military Berdan cases such as the 7.5x55 Swiss GP11. I just modified a Lee Chamfer Tool:

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