If you had to choose

For NA hunting the 30-06 wins in selection, availability and price.
Sure the 300WM is faster and farther but no advantage for NA hunting. Ammo is expensive, way more powder for reloading.
 
burnaby said:
For NA hunting the 30-06 wins in selection, availability and price.
Sure the 300WM is faster and farther but no advantage for NA hunting. Ammo is expensive, way more powder for reloading.
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If you reload, you can turn a .300 down to .30-06 volumes and use less powder..... Can't turn the dial back the other way if you own an aught six...... the .300 wm is also king at the longer ranges..... Once you get past moose, deer and black bear and into grizzly, woods bison, long range elk etc. The 300 has big advantages.....
 
I may be an inexperienced reloader but AFAIK you can't just put a 30-06 amount of powder in a 300 WM and expect it to work.

I would also question that it is king at long ranges; the 7mm rem mag has quiet a cult of followers who would claim its place on the throne, and there is at least one on this board who would give that title to the 340 weatherby and many off it who like the STW, Ultra Mags etc.

I have no dog in this fight really.
 
I think he ment king of the 308 caliber bullets you can't compare a smaller bullet. And the people that say more powder and recoil if the 10 cents worth of powder to get a longer range bullet that hits harder or can't take a little recoil mabey you should take up air soft there cheap and there's no kick.
 
conor_90 said:
I may be an inexperienced reloader but AFAIK you can't just put a 30-06 amount of powder in a 300 WM and expect it to work.

I would also question that it is king at long ranges; the 7mm rem mag has quiet a cult of followers who would claim its place on the throne, and there is at least one on this board who would give that title to the 340 weatherby and many off it who like the STW, Ultra Mags etc.

I have no dog in this fight really.
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You are correct..... But you can use less powder / different powder and load it down to .30-06 velocity.......

Not really a fight..... If we could actually own just one, well that would be a fight!
 
I have something against the 300 WM.

There is nothing wrong with it on paper; or even in practice. It is an illogical dislike. I sold a lot of bubba's 300 WM savages because they wanted to "reach out more", when their real problem was not enough range time.

Also it sits right between my fav 2.5 cartridges in bullet weights (338 and 7mm); why have one when you have an excuse to have 2?
 
From collecting brass at the public range and selling ammo at a CT gun counter for around a year I would say the 30-06 is actually above the limits of an average shooters recoil tolerance. May have something to do with the current trend of ultra light polymer rifles though.
 
conor_90 said:
I have something against the 300 WM.

There is nothing wrong with it on paper; or even in practice. It is an illogical dislike. I sold a lot of bubba's 300 WM savages because they wanted to "reach out more", when their real problem was not enough range time.
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Lol..... At least you can admit you have a problem..... :) ......

I joke..... The gun crowd is a diverse place...... From the "nobody needs anything more than a 30-30" to the "if it doesn't shoot 4" at 1000 it's crap"....... I have learned to embrace it over time..... Lol......
 
conor_90 said:
From collecting brass at the public range and selling ammo at a CT gun counter for around a year I would say the 30-06 is actually above the limits of an average shooters recoil tolerance. May have something to do with the current trend of ultra light polymer rifles though.
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Further to your bubba savage point, many out all of the emphasis on equipment and none in technique...... Just this Xmas eve past, I watched my 73 year old father run out their back door wearing jeans and a t-shirt and wallop a coyote using a 3" slug from a Cooey 84..... The same one I started hunting with at 12...... We didn't have much money and he wanted to mentor me, and couldn't afford anything friendlier on the shoulder, so he mentored me on technique endlessly on a .22 until he stepped me up.....
 
Same illogical argument can be said for shooting 338 Lapua instead of your shorter range, softer hitting 300WM.
wmd said:
I think he ment king of the 308 caliber bullets you can't compare a smaller bullet. And the people that say more powder and recoil if the 10 cents worth of powder to get a longer range bullet that hits harder or can't take a little recoil mabey you should take up air soft there cheap and there's no kick.
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Wow! I've killed some awful big animals at an awful long ways with apparently useless little cartridges.

If limited to one it would likely be a magnum 7 of some kind.
 
BigUglyMan said:
I would venture that it's the best at being good at everything, great at nothing and doing so at a recoil level that anyone old enough to own firearms can use with aplomb.
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That's just the thing, even if all of the above were indisputable, its also indisputable that all the bigger 30 cals can be handloaded to duplicate it in every way.
 
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