The longest shot I have had at local 3 gun matches was just under 400 yards at a 1 foot plate. Most matches keep the steel around 2 to 4 MOA and very few of the shots are over 200 yards
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The longest shot I have had at local 3 gun matches was just under 400 yards at a 1 foot plate. Most matches keep the steel around 2 to 4 MOA and very few of the shots are over 200 yards
You're seeing 4" or smaller steel targets at matches?
Sorry for being vague. I should have said most plates are 8-12" but every once in a while you will see a small target in the mix. Locals like to mix in a hostage taker target (roughly 4" bad guy) at a good distance.
Really depends on the match director and how hard he wants to make it. Remember, in Canada, you are not legally allowed to shoot steel inside of 70m with a center fire rifle. So if you're firing line is dynamic throughout the stage, a smart director will place steel at least 70m from the most downrange point of the firing line. So.. big card board targets up front, small steel in the back. Helps to separate the pack
Really depends on the match director and how hard he wants to make it. Remember, in Canada, you are not legally allowed to shoot steel inside of 70m with a center fire rifle. So if you're firing line is dynamic throughout the stage, a smart director will place steel at least 70m from the most downrange point of the firing line. So.. big card board targets up front, small steel in the back. Helps to separate the pack
Got it now, thanks.
Do you have a reference for the comment about not legally being able to shoot steel under 70m with a centerfire rifle? Haven't heard that one before.
It's in the RC'S guide to range construction. I will try to dig it up
Sorry, I was wrong.. legally 50m for center fire and 10m for rimfire/pistol.
My apologies. We have used 70m as a min for a few years. We've had issues with ricochet from slugs.
Also, I should mention, these distances refer to the legalities of range operation. If you want to shoot steel at home inside of these distances, have at 'er!
Sorry, I was wrong.. legally 50m for center fire and 10m for rimfire/pistol.
My apologies. We have used 70m as a min for a few years. We've had issues with ricochet from slugs.
Also, I should mention, these distances refer to the legalities of range operation. If you want to shoot steel at home inside of these distances, have at 'er!
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Last range inspection they mentioned the 50m with respect to lateral clearance on steel on our rifle range. We make sure it's safe, regardless.
Some "down" angle on the plates will take care of your slug ricochet issues.
Yeah, I'm nervous as hell around poppers.. I took a ricochet and it was just heavy enough to penetrate the skin and bury in over an inch. Doctor looked at me like I was crazy when I told him I thought I had lead in my back!
Any ways.. sorry for derailing your thread!
If you go to a match prepared to shoot 2 MOA and have your hold overs doped to 400 yards, you will be laughing.
Any ways.. sorry for derailing your thread!
If you go to a match prepared to shoot 2 MOA and have your hold overs doped to 400 yards, you will be laughing.
What twist is your barrel? Mine is 1 in 8 so not sure how heavy a bullet I can go with
A 1:8 twist is good for up to 77gr.
I shoot hand loaded ammo from a single stage press. Varget does not work well in my progressive. I practice with whatever is cheapest. But furthest target I've seen has been 200yards, and it was kind of a big deal. Most are 7 to 50 yards. At that range ita not worth it to use match ammo. But, I do anyway for that just in case time where I need to make a longer shot.
I shoot hand loaded ammo from a single stage press. Varget does not work well in my progressive. I practice with whatever is cheapest. But furthest target I've seen has been 200yards, and it was kind of a big deal. Most are 7 to 50 yards. At that range ita not worth it to use match ammo. But, I do anyway for that just in case time where I need to make a longer shot.
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Here is a bit of an interesting take on 3gun ammo: years ago at a match my club hosted I was ROing a stage that involved hitting hanging bowling pins at about 150m with your rifle. At that distance it can sometimes be a challenge to see movement of the pin if it was hit near the neck of the pin, or gets hit and just spins, etc. So one smart shooter gets to the line (Jojo Pinto if iirc) and when he hits the pins they jump like someone has hit them with a base ball bat! After he is done the stage I commented about how "lively" those pins were for him at which point he showed me the polymer-tipped 223 he used for this stage. The ammo was obviously very accurate but also that ballistic tip caused much better transfer of energy from the projectile to the pin, making his hits unmistakeable! You can learn a thing or two if you pay attention to the more experienced guys!
