Tavor and T97 grouping at 100 yards

[CanadianBaconPancakes]

Looking so see if someone of you guys will share your tavor or t97 grouping pics at 100 yards or farther! Trying to make a decision if I should buy one, Accuracy is my main goal and as I see some guys claiming 1 inch groups and some 4 inch I would like to see some at work!


I played with one (tavor ) in store and I do like the feel, but I seen some guys shoot them locally with a co witness set up and grouping was disappointing and had over a 4 inch group at 100.

 

[Airborn_69]

Mine was at best 2moa with Factory PMC 62gr and Ruag 63 gr. I did get the Timney trigger afterwards and shot a bout the same or slightly tighter.

T97 shot about 2.5moa at best, more like 3

 

[xdmer]

PM inbound

 

[onetwentyish]

My experiences are neither platform puts any focus on accuracy. I would strongly recommend looking at an ACR if you were keen on accuracy, that's what I have done.

 

[superz]

If accuracy is your goal avoid those rifles....

 

[white_knight]

Not trying for accuracy, the was just resting on a so I could re zero me Eotech. Wasn't shooting slow deliberate shots waiting for optimal conditions, but it wasn't rapid fire either. Specs were an Eotech xps2 with a 3x magnifier, shooting bulk Remington umc 55gr .223 ammo.


100m 10 shots

50m 5 shots, adjust sights then 5 more

I don't think this is a true representation of its accuracy potential, but it gives you an idea of average don't think about it just shoot accuracy.

 

[JBD]

These groups were done with my tavor at 100 yards.

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[CanadianBaconPancakes]

These groups were done with my tavor at 100 yards.

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Optics? or irons?

 

[mikethebike]

I can get my tavor to 1.5 moa multiple 5 shot groups on same paper consistently with vmax
check my thread tavor ammo review
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...-ammo-review?p=9563168&viewfull=1#post9563168

 

[S1de8urnz]

I could not get better then 4moa out of my t97. I did not hand load with it. I used a variety of different factory ammo.

 

[Raider556]

I have had both and 4 MOA was about what they accomplished. YMMV

 

[J_Scott]

These groups were done with my tavor at 100 yards.

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But where did the 5th round go?

 

[BeaverMeat]

Wow. My CSA Vz58 x39 would shoot better... before the receiver chewed itself to peices.

 

[SquidMeister]

I dont have photos but a friend and I were out shooting bullpups. At 150 yards free standing, The type 97 shot a 2.2" group and the Tavor shot a 2.1".

 

[J_Scott]

I dont have photos but a friend and I were out shooting bullpups. At 150 yards free standing, The type 97 shot a 2.2" group and the Tavor shot a 2.1".

Oh really? How many rounds per group? 1?

That's pretty amazing that you can shoot a 3-4 moa rifle at just over 1 moa off hand.

 

[SquidMeister]

Oh really? How many rounds per group? 1?

That's pretty amazing that you can shoot a 3-4 moa rifle at just over 1 moa off hand.

I realize its anecdotal, but that's what we got. My Type 97 has been excellently accurate for me, so maybe i got lucky.

 

[Travis Bickle]

I realize its anecdotal, but that's what we got. My Type 97 has been excellently accurate for me, so maybe i got lucky.

That's beyond lucky.
I couldn't shoot that with my bedded Rem700 AAC using match ammo and a 3-9 Scope (it will do about 1/2 MOA from prone, supported and taking a lot of time and warm up shots to get into the groove) but anyhow....

My T97 was around 4-5 MOA using the irons. Same regardless of Norc 55gr, Federal 62gr, surplus green tip FMJ M855 etc etc I think I tried about 5 types of ammo. All the same results. I had a thread/review of it actually.
For perspective, I can put 3 rounds in a 3" group roughly (sometimes a little less) using my old 1976 Model 94 and the buckhorn stock irons at 100 meters using wal mart Federal .30-30 So it's not my shooting ability.

I can say that the two Tavors I shot (one with irons and one with a red dot of some sort) shot the same ie ~4-5 MOA gun when I shot them.
Both those rifles are not designed to be accurate. They are bullet hoses designed for effective combat accuracy under fast rates of fire in a compact package within 150 meters. They do this well. But accurate rifles in stock config they sure as hell are not.
I personally think there is a lot of projection on these two rifles from owners who want it to be a lot more. I did when I owned my T97 but I just accepted it and sold it as I'm not into those types of guns. Don't regret it.

 

[drifter dave]

I dont have photos but a friend and I were out shooting bullpups. At 150 yards free standing, The type 97 shot a 2.2" group and the Tavor shot a 2.1".

Sure that wasn't yards?

 

[SKIBEEDOO]

Tavor 100 yards. First time trying to post pics.

 

[JBD]

My groups would have been done with irons at that time. As for the mystery 5th round I can not get a 5 round mag to load with 5 rounds in it on a closed bolt.