Burris speed bead on an 870 express

stubblejumper said:
Let us know how many clean rounds you shoot with it. I have never seen anyone shoot a clean round of trap or skeet with an optic sight .
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That's a fact and I would like to think that it's not meant to dissuade anyone from trying out different things. However, the reality is that performance efficiency is quickly removed from the equation when a sighting device is added to a smoothbore shotgun in order to place a pattern on a fast moving target - where the idea is mainly to concentrate on the "bird" during the overall process.
 
Ahsan Ahmed said:
That's a fact and I would like to think that it's not meant to dissuade anyone from trying out different things. However, the reality is that performance efficiency is quickly removed from the equation when a sighting device is added to a smoothbore shotgun in order to place a pattern on a fast moving target - where the idea is mainly to concentrate on the "bird" during the overall process.
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We had one individual show up with some high dollar tactical shotguns, with holographic sights, but he did poor at trap, and failed even more miserably at skeet. He was cocky and confident when he arrived to shoot, but he walked away shaking his head trying ti figure out how I was able to shoot doubles at all stations with a 28 gauge, and he was too slow to shoot doubles on pretty much every station, because of his holographic sight. Station 8 was a total write of for him as well.
 
These sights have their place in hunting applications...... Like turkey or deer in shotgun only zones........

As far as using them for skeet and trap, IMOP, it's a no go...... I have never seen someone that can't shoot instinctively be successful in busting clay....... Or even hunting upland for that matter.....
 
stubblejumper said:
We had one individual show up with some high dollar tactical shotguns, with holographic sights, but he did poor at trap, and failed even more miserably at skeet. He was cocky and confident when he arrived to shoot, but he walked away shaking his head trying ti figure out how I was able to shoot doubles at all stations with a 28 gauge, and he was too slow to shoot doubles on pretty much every station, because of his holographic sight. Station 8 was a total write of for him as well.
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I can shoot trap ok. I've never shot a full clean round. I'm above 50% though. I've just recently started shooting with family and never had shot it before last year.

I'm interested in trying it out and if it ends up being terrible I'll just turn the dot off. The way it's setup i can still look down the barrel. Definitely be fun to try it out. If not next weekend it will be a month or two before i can try again.
 
hoocli said:
I can shoot trap ok. I've never shot a full clean round. I'm above 50% though. I've just recently started shooting with family and never had shot it before last year.

I'm interested in trying it out and if it ends up being terrible I'll just turn the dot off. The way it's setup i can still look down the barrel. Definitely be fun to try it out. If not next weekend it will be a month or two before i can try again.
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At just above 50%, you aren't even close to being able to properly evaluate the potential of a sight for shooting trap. When you are above 90%, your evaluation will be somewhat useful.
 
stubblejumper said:
At just above 50%, you aren't even close to being able to properly evaluate the potential of a sight for shooting trap. When you are above 90%, your evaluation will be somewhat useful.
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not entirely... if with this thing I am shooting near perfect or hardly hitting it can give some feedback. I've heard good things about it and yes I'm not going to be as good of a review as someone who is 90% but I do come in with no reservations and will be giving it an honest test. unlike some of these 90%+ shooters who don't want to touch this thing.

So many people basically dismiss it without giving it an honest chance. Atleast according to many things I've read online.
 
I think what most are getting at is you don't need a device to become a better wings hooter you just need actual time and more practise behind a gun that fits you properly so you can indeed focus on the target and not the gun.
 
I tried the SpeedBead and holographic sights on clay targets a few times. I found skeet easier once I got the leads right. Just line up the little dot with the target and keep the gun moving and pull the trigger. Trap however was a completely different story. Perhaps it had to do with the birds coming out in random directions as opposed to the predictable flight path of a skeet target.

FWIW, you can play with sights on your gun but they are not permitted in competition unless you have an eye problem and get use of the sight approved by the sanctioning body.
 
I run a speedbead on my semi auto. I don't shoot competitively never any type of formal shoots at all. But when it comes to shooting in the field, well I generally limit on waterfowl and if a coyote is within my established range (dictated by pattern energy etc) it's fur on the ground. I feel almost handicapped without it. The main drawback is relying on an electronic device. Batteries die lens fogs up etc.
 
I use one on my super nova. I absolutly love it. I have taken it duck hunting and cleaned up the yard of criters with no problems, but i do agree that the "scope" takes up to much of your field of view. I have other guns i prefer for clays, but to be honest i didnt notice missing anymore then normal. Usually miss 2-3 for every 20ish clays thrown. But i can tell you it didnt make it easier or give me any advantage.

Now that i think of it, i have two of them. One on a savage model 42 as well. Its a good little sight. I really beat the #### out of the model 42 and its never needed adjustments.
 
Winchested said:
I think what most are getting at is you don't need a device to become a better wings hooter you just need actual time and more practise behind a gun that fits you properly so you can indeed focus on the target and not the gun.
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I'm not exactly looking for a silver bullet that makes me an amazing shot. Practice does make perfect but I don't go out nearly enough to get a good instinctive shot down. I normally only get out once or twice a year, hopefully now that my brother in law is around more we can get out more.

Anyway I went out this weekend with my brother in law and we were throwing clays with an electric thrower. I hit all but 2 clays. Those were only due to inexperience and not knowing proper leads. Not enough lead and hit just behind both times on long shots.

I find you need to use this sight with both eyes open to really take advantage of it. I find that I had no problem locating the clay just as fast as open and I concentrated on the clay and automatically moved to dot to where it needed to be. I used it to help point the shotgun not really aiming if that makes any sense. I was also shooting with a modified choke not cyl or imp cyl.

Anyway I enjoy using it and I don't shoot competition so not a problem with me. IMO if it works for you do it.

I hope to try it out hunting grouse this year and see how it does.
 
Three year bump!
This is the only thread that comes up for a speed bead search.

Still all the hate for this thing? Thinking about picking one up for my coyote and grouse gun. Burris still sells them, so someone's buying them.
 
I’m with hoocli on this. If the device gets him out with his gun, who cares about the rest? The speed bead is perfectly suited for deer and turkey. And even for waterfowl. I haven’t tried one but my guess is it would help new clay shooters to cheek the gun before pulling the trigger. The only area where nothing but luck helps is grouse on the wing.
 
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