WWI German Officer's Luger - Prohibited?
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There are three types of lugers. The long barreled artillery luger is restricted, as well as the medium length barreled Navy luger.
The most common version has a barrel that is just under the acceptable length. To acquire/own such a weapon, you require a licence to own a prohibited gun, or you will need to get it deactivated, or you can work with a vendor/gunsmith to have the shorter barrel swapped out for a longer one.
The most common version has a barrel that is just under the acceptable length. To acquire/own such a weapon, you require a licence to own a prohibited gun, or you will need to get it deactivated, or you can work with a vendor/gunsmith to have the shorter barrel swapped out for a longer one.
More curious about how to handle the "it came into the country a long time ago" part.
I purchased one from a prohib owner. He shipped it to a gunsmith for the barrel change. The gunsmith installed a new barrel that was about 1/8" longer, sent the old barrel to the RCMP and did the paperwork to change the status from prohib to restricted. The gun was then transferred to me. It took about 4 months from start to finish but it was worth it as that was the only way I could purchase the Luger.
This would have been before that. So maybe the transfer may not be that simple.
Simple answer, if it's a stolen firearm, just surrender it to the police as no gunsmith will ever touch it period.
But If the gun was part of a collection and the owners died, and youre a relative who inherited, then yes the gun is registered, find the registration certificate and have it transfer to a buyer.
I always find it hard to believe that someone could find an unregistered pistol dating back to 1918, i don't believe in fairy tales !
But If the gun was part of a collection and the owners died, and youre a relative who inherited, then yes the gun is registered, find the registration certificate and have it transfer to a buyer.
I always find it hard to believe that someone could find an unregistered pistol dating back to 1918, i don't believe in fairy tales !
Why not? Thousands of war souvenir pistols must have come into the country, put away and forgotten or passed down to family members.
On a service call to a West Vancouver residence, I was in the home of an elderly widow. In her living room, she had a full suit of original Medieval Samurai armour on display, complete with WWII sword. I pointed out to her that the sword and armour were from different eras, and she knew that.
Then she told me that she had some other military memorabilia and opened up her husband's desk. She produced a long barreled Kreigsmarine P-08, holster and matching Kriegsmarine dagger c/w with hanger!
Once I recovered my composure, I asked her if she had any papers associated with the gun and she didn't know. I advised her to do a careful search with someone who knew what to look for and referred her to a reputable collector I knew who could do an appraisal on her items and legalize the P-08 if necessary.
On a service call to a West Vancouver residence, I was in the home of an elderly widow. In her living room, she had a full suit of original Medieval Samurai armour on display, complete with WWII sword. I pointed out to her that the sword and armour were from different eras, and she knew that.
Then she told me that she had some other military memorabilia and opened up her husband's desk. She produced a long barreled Kreigsmarine P-08, holster and matching Kriegsmarine dagger c/w with hanger!
Once I recovered my composure, I asked her if she had any papers associated with the gun and she didn't know. I advised her to do a careful search with someone who knew what to look for and referred her to a reputable collector I knew who could do an appraisal on her items and legalize the P-08 if necessary.
It was fairly easy after the war to register those war relic no big deal, like i said i don't believe in fairy tales.
In this country handguns registration date back to 1934, most of the time registration certificates have been misplaced somewhere and lots of people think (because the relatives can't find them) that the gun was never registered before.
The only way to ''legalize'' a prohibited handgun is to find the registration certificate (or the old green certificate) or to ask the CFC for a replacement certificate (only if youre the executor of the estate), otherwise it's a no go even if youre a reputable collector.
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In this country handguns registration date back to 1934, most of the time registration certificates have been misplaced somewhere and lots of people think (because the relatives can't find them) that the gun was never registered before.
The only way to ''legalize'' a prohibited handgun is to find the registration certificate (or the old green certificate) or to ask the CFC for a replacement certificate (only if youre the executor of the estate), otherwise it's a no go even if youre a reputable collector.
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Admittedly this is a rare case but the original owner is in his 90s and still kicking. Don't think it was ever registered.
Not sure if he inherited from a relative or how he came in possession. Don't believe it was stolen.
I can ask if they have a registration certificate.
Don't forget the 12-7 class where the next of kin can inherit these pistols if produced before 1945. OP, if you are a relative of the owner you may be eligible to inherit the pistol as is.
If the pistol was ever stolen and reported there will be a record of it. Those records are never thrown away.
Your post is very vague. If that pistol came in after WWI or even before, it may be a commercial model such as the American Eagle stamped models and very valuable in the US, where it can legally be shipped to an importer.
If it was never registered under any system it can no longer be registered to an individual - only to a business or museum. If it was registered under the green slip system, you used to be able to update it to a modern 12(6) certificate but some CFOs have become reluctant or obstructionist in proceeding with this alternative.
That is not how verification works.
In the case of a non-registered prohib, if your local CFO was willing to work with you, you would have the pistol registered to a business willing to handle the work. The business would then install the new restricted barrel, and register it as a restricted. At that point the business would transfer the pistol to you. If your local CFO was not willing to work with you they may just straight up demand it be turned in for destruction.
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Not 100% true.
If it were in fact restricted length barrel (which could be done before verification) it could be verified as such and issued a restricted cert. no different than grandpas hi-power or new service found in the sock drawer. People register found restricteds all the time. The short barrel (or barreled upper) would however be a prohibited device by itself, but could be chopped or removed and destroyed, or sent to a firearms business for replacement.
Not all Lugers were prohibited either... Only the ones with the shorter 4" barrels.
Most swiss Lugers I believe are restricted.
Not 100% true.
If it were in fact restricted length barrel (which could be done before verification) it could be verified as such and issued a restricted cert. no different than grandpas hi-power or new service found in the sock drawer. People register found restricteds all the time. The short barrel (or barreled upper) would however be a prohibited device by itself, but could be chopped or removed and destroyed, or sent to a firearms business for replacement.
Not all Lugers were prohibited either... Only the ones with the shorter 4" barrels.
Most swiss Lugers I believe are restricted.
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Coyote Ugly
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I just invented and patented the Ronco P08 Luger Barrel Stretcher!
It allows you to go from 12(6), 12(7) and back to Restricted at the flick of a switch. Just set it and forget it!
One day you might want a Navy Luger and the Next day an Artillery Luger, and every third Friday you may want a 4 inch Barrel.
If you act now and in the next 10 minutes, .........
It allows you to go from 12(6), 12(7) and back to Restricted at the flick of a switch. Just set it and forget it!
One day you might want a Navy Luger and the Next day an Artillery Luger, and every third Friday you may want a 4 inch Barrel.
If you act now and in the next 10 minutes, .........
I'm not saying that you are wrong, but...the CFC would rather see it in the system than out.
I brought one in from the cold, it was pretty easy. Formerly registered mind you, but totally off the grid when I called.
One phone call and it was done.
If it was registered before it's no problem. But prohibs can no longer be brought on as long as I know (not sure about businesses).
