WWI German Officer's Luger - Prohibited?

wbaad said:
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Not 100% true.
If it were in fact restricted length barrel (which could be done before verification) it could be verified as such and issued a restricted cert. no different than grandpas hi-power or new service found in the sock drawer. People register found restricteds all the time. The short barrel (or barreled upper) would however be a prohibited device by itself, but could be chopped or removed and destroyed, or sent to a firearms business for replacement.
Not all Lugers were prohibited either... Only the ones with the shorter 4" barrels.
Most swiss Lugers I believe are restricted.
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I see what you are saying but then you run into a situation where two frames are using the same slide/barrel to make it restricted. In a practical sense the scenario I have presented is what would transpire. Someone without 12(6) can not possess a prohibited handgun even during a reverification procedure unless they are an executor to an estate. All other instances it must be in the possession of a business.

tokguy said:
I'm not saying that you are wrong, but...the CFC would rather see it in the system than out.
I brought one in from the cold, it was pretty easy. Formerly registered mind you, but totally off the grid when I called.
One phone call and it was done.
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Again, up to your CFO's discretion on how they interpret the regulations.
 
McCoy said:
It was fairly easy after the war to register those war relic no big deal, like i said i don't believe in fairy tales.

In this country handguns registration date back to 1934, most of the time registration certificates have been misplaced somewhere and lots of people think (because the relatives can't find them) that the gun was never registered before.

The only way to ''legalize'' a prohibited handgun is to find the registration certificate (or the old green certificate) or to ask the CFC for a replacement certificate (only if youre the executor of the estate), otherwise it's a no go even if youre a reputable collector.

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LOL. I don't believe in naivety.

I've surfaced any number of previously un-registered handguns in the past 15 years. The biggest problem is if it turns out to be registered already and not to the current owner. Then it's usually the smelter.
 
mikerock said:
If it was registered under the green slip system, you used to be able to update it to a modern 12(6) certificate but some CFOs have become reluctant or obstructionist in proceeding with this alternative.
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In this situation you never deal with the CFO, always call the CFC first, thats what i do, never had any problem so far.

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wbaad said:
If never registered maybe someone can lend you a restricted upper to have it verified restricted while the prohib upper is getting rebarreled????

Do not let it get chopped!!!
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No gunsmith will rebarreled a prohib pistol if you don't have a proof that the gun is actually registered.

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I have my 12(6) endorsement, but it was more a happy coincidence than good planning on my part.

My Grandfather had a .32 S&W pistol. He had registered it on July 14, 1969 when he received it as a gift from a retired BC Provincial police officer. Surprisingly, the reason listed for owning it was "protection" (a valid and accepted reason in those days). The document was issued by the local RCMP detachment. It sat in his sock drawer for many years. On the April 17, 1986 he applied for a permit to transport it from northern to southern BC (where he was moving to). In the notes, the RCMP officer issuing the permit requested my grandfather be issued a new certificate (the old green forms) because of the age of the original certificate. I suspect that the gun wasn't even in the system at that point. He transferred it to me on June 5, 1990 (again on the old green forms).

Since the pistol is .32 calibre and has a 3" barrel, I was grandfathered when the law changed December 1, 1998.

As long as you have some form of previous registration, I think the CFO will work with you to bring a restricted pistol into the system. However, if you don't already have a 12(6) endorsement, I think it will be very difficult to bring a prohibited pistol into the system. However, there are some gunsmiths who can install a longer barrel. It is worth a shot.

- Jayne
 
Jayne said:
if you don't already have a 12(6) endorsement, I think it will be very difficult to bring a prohibited pistol into the system.- Jayne
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Of course but you only need to find someone, a buyer who has 12/6, and they will transfer it to him in the new system, i bought some nice 12/6 prohib handguns this way.


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McCoy said:
Simple answer, if it's a stolen firearm, just surrender it to the police as no gunsmith will ever touch it period.

But If the gun was part of a collection and the owners died, and youre a relative who inherited, then yes the gun is registered, find the registration certificate and have it transfer to a buyer.

I always find it hard to believe that someone could find an unregistered pistol dating back to 1918, i don't believe in fairy tales !
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Don't be that surprised. A family member brought out an 1858 percussion revolver that had been converted to cartridges in the 1880's and was/is currently unregistered. It seems it had been passed to the children in the 1940's as a cowboy/indians gun and then stayed unregarded for 70 years. Good thing I was wearing my brown trousers.
 
mikerock said:
I see what you are saying but then you run into a situation where two frames are using the same slide/barrel to make it restricted. In a practical sense the scenario I have presented is what would transpire. Someone without 12(6) can not possess a prohibited handgun even during a reverification procedure unless they are an executor to an estate. All other instances it must be in the possession of a business.



Again, up to your CFO's discretion on how they interpret the regulations.
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I think you have missed something...
a 4.25" luger is NOT prohibited.
 
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