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These turn your standard sidearm into the perfect carbine in a matter of seconds, improving accuracy, handling, and versatility, check out the links below! One turn of a dial and your pistol slides in and becomes your primary carbine. We have a limited quantity of the Hera Triarii units left in stock for various different pistols, see below for the selection of available units. Starting immediately these will be on sale 10% off with free shipping and on the website for you to snag!
All remaining units are sold as is, no return or warranty available. Give us a call or shoot us an E-mail to get yours today! sales@wolverinesupplies.com or 204-748-2454

You may notice that there are two separate units that are a little bit more than the rest, that is because they are the Ready to Use units, coming complete with stock, sights, and a fore grip. Similar to the one pictured below, (minus the pistol and light! ) If you would like to pick up a unit that is all ready to go, give us a call!


 
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To each their own, but this seems like all of the downside of a rifle (weight, concealability, portability, etc.) with none of the advantages (larger caliber, longer barrel). Am I missing something?

FF
 
FyreFighter said:
To each their own, but this seems like all of the downside of a rifle (weight, concealability, portability, etc.) with none of the advantages (larger caliber, longer barrel). Am I missing something?

FF
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Accuracy?
Speed?
Effective employable range?
Adaptability?
 
Is there any evidence that this does that?

Accuracy - you're still dealing with a 4-5" barrel. Maybe you can hold it steadier but there's got to be a difference in POI every time you remove/reinstall the pistol.
Speed, maybe but I doubt it.
Effective employable range. Again, I doubt it. You're still limited to the caliber & barrel length combo you had.
Adaptability: in what sense? Yes, you can hang more lights/lasers off of it than a regular pistol, but is that a good thing?

I would be interested in talking to the owner of one of these to see if they enjoy it - or if they enjoy their pistol more - or if they put it up on the EE within weeks.

FF

Daver_II said:
Accuracy?
Speed?
Effective employable range?
Adaptability?
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FyreFighter said:
To each their own, but this seems like all of the downside of a rifle (weight, concealability, portability, etc.) with none of the advantages (larger caliber, longer barrel). Am I missing something?

FF
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I gotta agree, seems kinda wrong to go with such a long chassis...

why not push the Fab KPOS, like the one I bought years ago from you guys at wolverine, I have tried some of these others...and I will always go back to the KPOS. Its compact, very ergonomic, super accurate...and totally holds zero when its re- inserted into the chassis. Plus you can fold the stock and easily shoot it like a pistol. That was the only reason I have a glock...I wanted the KPOS, and they only made them for glocks back then.

I have had it for years and I don't understand why anybody would want a chassis so long and cumbersome, when fab makes the perfect size?....why not just shoot a rifle?
plus its an all metal construction, and has lasted thousands and thousands of rounds, and functions as well as the day I bought it.

My opinion....if it aint broke...don't fix it.....KPOS stands alone as the best chassis by far IMHOP
 
i love the look before and after the pistol but it looks like there is a piece missing, like someone should have designed it to enclose the pistol like other designs, besides that it looks pretty awesome!
 
FyreFighter said:
Is there any evidence that this does that?

Accuracy - you're still dealing with a 4-5" barrel. Maybe you can hold it steadier but there's got to be a difference in POI every time you remove/reinstall the pistol.
Speed, maybe but I doubt it.
Effective employable range. Again, I doubt it. You're still limited to the caliber & barrel length combo you had.
Adaptability: in what sense? Yes, you can hang more lights/lasers off of it than a regular pistol, but is that a good thing?

I would be interested in talking to the owner of one of these to see if they enjoy it - or if they enjoy their pistol more - or if they put it up on the EE within weeks.

FF
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No offence brother, but try it before you knock it. I have a RONI (not a Hera, but same idea) and I can tell you emphatically that I shoot my G17 is consistently in a 6" at 50m when in the RONI (w/red dot). I can't shoot like that with the Glock out of the RONI.

It's still a pistol, so you're not going to get velocities like a 16-20 inch barrel will give, but you will have the option of optics and shouldering...this equates to greater accuracy at further distances. {Which makes the Carbine Kits cool as hell imho :p}
 
FyreFighter said:
Is there any evidence that this does that?

Accuracy - you're still dealing with a 4-5" barrel. Maybe you can hold it steadier but there's got to be a difference in POI every time you remove/reinstall the pistol.
Speed, maybe but I doubt it.
Effective employable range. Again, I doubt it. You're still limited to the caliber & barrel length combo you had.
Adaptability: in what sense? Yes, you can hang more lights/lasers off of it than a regular pistol, but is that a good thing?

I would be interested in talking to the owner of one of these to see if they enjoy it - or if they enjoy their pistol more - or if they put it up on the EE within weeks.

FF
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I agree that you can't knock it until you try it.

I have a KPOS, which as said is not nearly as long.

Accuracy: you can shoulder and support the firearm, with my KPOS I am able to group under 6" at 50 yards with a red dot as well, plus follow up shots are very fast compared to a pistol without the chassis.

Speed: sight acquisition (again shouldered), and follow up shots are very fast, and accurate shots on target are faster than without the chassis.

Effective employable range: (notice I did not say effective range) - I am certain I can hit a target at 100 - 200m with a chassis, taking my time with my KPOS at 100m and I can group under 8". I would certainly not be able to do that reliably with my GLOCK otherwise.

Adaptability: you can easily ad optics, grips, lights (and yes lasers, bipods, bayonets, any other mall ninja crap if you wish).

All That, plus these are fun.

Now here is where these types of things are actually useful - not as a range toy.... but....

Not all police forces equip every car with a carbine, whether it is because of the budget, or that they don't want the liability of a carbine in the cruiser unattended when the officer is away. This is an option they can leave in the car all the time, and should the need arise that they require a longer employable ranged weapon, or more accuracy, with the possibility of faster follow up shots, etc... they could install the chassis.
This type of accessory effectively makes the pistol they carry everyday into the carbine they need in a bad situation.

Has something like this been adopted? I have no Idea, but I can see how it would be effective in that case.
 
FyreFighter said:
Is there any evidence that this does that?

Accuracy - you're still dealing with a 4-5" barrel. Maybe you can hold it steadier but there's got to be a difference in POI every time you remove/reinstall the pistol.
Speed, maybe but I doubt it.
Effective employable range. Again, I doubt it. You're still limited to the caliber & barrel length combo you had.
Adaptability: in what sense? Yes, you can hang more lights/lasers off of it than a regular pistol, but is that a good thing?

I would be interested in talking to the owner of one of these to see if they enjoy it - or if they enjoy their pistol more - or if they put it up on the EE within weeks.

FF
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I'm an avid user of one, ask me anything you would like. I've used both the Hera and the Fab KPOS alot. Of course you'll more than likely just say that my answers don't count as I work for Wolverine.
 
Wow, a full-service retailer AND a mind-reader! Amazing.

What, if any, is the typical change in accuracy? Does this change the employable range?

Why are you discontinuing this item?

FF

Grumpy Wolverine said:
I'm an avid user of one, ask me anything you would like. I've used both the Hera and the Fab KPOS alot. Of course you'll more than likely just say that my answers don't count as I work for Wolverine.
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FyreFighter said:
Wow, a full-service retailer AND a mind-reader! Amazing.

What, if any, is the typical change in accuracy? Does this change the employable range?

Why are you discontinuing this item?

FF
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I was just basing that statement on previous threads we have "interacted" in. We can just leave it at that and move forward.

Change in accuracy is going to be dependent on the level of skill of the person with a handgun. That being said most people will tend to shoot better with a shoulder fired firearm than a pistol. Barrel length does not determine accuracy. Change in accuracy in both units has been more notable at longer ranges. I have found that they have allowed target engagement at 100 meters, with very very good results. It also allowed for a faster target acquisition at that type of range. I also find these very fast at room clearing distances.

While the KPOS is very nice and small, and I do love using the KPOS, the hera does offer a few advantages for certain applications. The Hera unit allows a person who is used to using an AR carbine to maintain more or less the same hold on the unit as they are used to. The sight plane/picture can mimic their AR rifle, so from a transition standpoint it works well. This also includes placement of any light or laser units. The longer size of the hera also accommodates people who like to use the extended c clamp style of hold. We have sold these hera units to various larger le forces across the country just for this reason.

Both style units are just plain fun as well. It allows folks to have a bit of a "smg" experience without having to buy a secondary firearm etc.

We are blowing these out as they are older stock and we aren't bringing going to stock them on a regular basis in the future.
 
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