Chinese Norinco SKS put through it's paces...
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That's news to me, just took his word for it. No significance between the blade and spike bayonet, as he was saying?
Eaglelord17
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He knows very very basic information about them. If you knew a bit more about them you would understand how little he knows. Watching some of his videos makes me cringe (I basically don't watch any of them anymore unless I can't find another option) as he doesn't understand a fair bit, and says things which is simply untrue.
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Just year of manufacture. Chinese changed from blade to spike for military versions in the 60s.
Should post it in his video comments.
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The info is out there plenty. Like others have said, he isn't much of a milsurps expert, just a guy who likes guns and shooting them. It's a channel to help sell guns and bring business to moss pawn.
They come in all variations. Blade bayonet, spike, no bayonet, etc. Some were newly made, some were actually milsurps, anything you can think of. The newly made ones are pretty junky to be honest.
This is true. They do spread some misinformation but they absolutely appreciate their milsurps, treat them with respect and for the most part leave them in original condition. While they do bubba 91/30 refurbs in their business, Eric has a few Finn captures and refurbs in original condition in his collection. Business is business. The general consensus on the Internet used to be that the "Russian stuff" was basically junk until channels like his and others lended them some credibility.
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The Chinese have refurbished many versions for commercial sale. Some like the one you mention, with those features. Others just like that with spike bayos. The stocks are generally unserialized. I have seen them still bearing their original arsenal markings, but are very refurbished. The refurbishment was done for commercial sale, and not military storage like the Russians.
There are also the latest ones, in full military appearance, but with scrubbed and re-matched serial numbers. Some people like to think these are "clandestine", but in reality they have been rebranded in China for commercial export and sale, and are no longer in their original military issue status. Commercial, but fully matching what a military version was save for the markings. As far as Chinese commercial guns go, they are side by side the same as any commercial surplus. Really it is just the difference in those markings being changed.
The military versions came with blades for the earlier models, and spikes for later.
The one IV8888 has is stamped M21... He basically has two military guns from different points in production history. Nothing more. He is comparing one generation of Chinese SKS to another. His is a late model M21. The early M21s appear to have been only from 26. The late M21 versions came from 26 primarily, but were also seen from Factory 416 and Factory 0296 which is the factory marking seen on IV8888's version. The example is typical of the quality and look of what that era had, and what we see a lot of. IV8888 is just used to seeing the battle worn blade bayo ones they have been getting from different export countries other than China.
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Eaglelord17
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I think the one which sent me over the edge with him was when he did a 'destruction test' on a Arisaka Type 99. I wouldn't have even been really mad if he had done a proper destruction test and actually achieved some results (like how strong the action is etc.). Instead he ended up being unable to destroy it though testing, and shot the rifle up with a M1 Garand instead.
I didn't see that one and by the sounds of it I'm glad I didn't. I did see the Mosin one where they failed to cause any damage to the barrel or receiver with numerous dangerously overpressured loads. The lockup also held. It seemed more credible.
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Something like that, actually proves something, and since it is documented (through video tape) it allows others to see for themselves without having to do it themselves. Just shooting a rifle is pretty pointless, your proving nothing and destroying something for no reason. I would actually love to see some proper destruction tests on old military actions (hopefully done on sporters) just to see how strong they are. There is some actual knowledge that can be gained and shared by that.
I don't read too much into firearm videos on YouTube. Not everyone is a historian, it's just firearm enthusiasts enjoying their firearms. I liked this video and it shows that the SKS and 7.62x39 can be shot accurately if in the right hands.
