Wolves commit disasterous PR move!

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This wolf pair was videotaped virtually eating a large buck deer alive. The site I got the link from says they were "playing with it" and that it's typical wolf behaviour, but that's going too far I think and I want to hear it from other sources as well before I believe it- it sounds like a risky thing to do if nothing else. Still and all, fans of Farley Mowat who can be forced to watch this will be extremely disappointed until they can think of a reason why humans are to blame:


 
To bad the guy doing the recording did not have a rifle ; he could have finished the deer off , and put it out of its misery......nature at work....
 
Old video; the reality is that nature is not a bambi movie. Animals are killed, often cruelly, and eaten in order for other animals to survive.
You often see hyenas or even lions tearing into the abdomen of their prey while another pack member is still subduing it.
That video demonstrates the real side of survival in nature.
 
Most predators don't set out to kill their prey, they catch it to eat it and they'll start eating as soon as it is sufficiently subdued. The death of the prey is incidental.
 
Old video; the reality is that nature is not a bambi movie. Animals are killed, often cruelly, and eaten in order for other animals to survive.
You often see hyenas or even lions tearing into the abdomen of their prey while another pack member is still subduing it. That video demonstrates the real side of survival in nature.

+1. It is real "reality TV". Its unfortunate that such a large proportion of the world is so far removed from the natural world that they view this as aberrant or somehow deviant behaviour. A solid clue that they don't understand what is going on is ascribing human attributes.
 
This wolf pair was videotaped virtually eating a large buck deer alive. The site I got the link from says they were "playing with it" and that it's typical wolf behaviour, but that's going too far I think and I want to hear it from other sources as well before I believe it- it sounds like a risky thing to do if nothing else. Still and all, fans of Farley Mowat who can be forced to watch this will be extremely disappointed until they can think of a reason why humans are to blame.

I would agree with the site you got the link from, it looks like they are playing with it. Neither look very hungry or focused on eating. What the site may have failed to mention, is that the wolves idea of "playing" equals a slow and painful death for the deer. It's true the wolves are playing with the deer, but the question you have to ask is does the deer want to play with the wolves?
 
Too bad we didn't have a video camera to record the wolves pulling down a moose cow and calf,they hamstrung the cow and left it alive for 3 days bellowing while they killed and ate the calf,then finished off the cow...no,it wasn't cruel' it's just nature...but please don't tell me wolves are nice warm fuzzies that the politically correct would have us to believe they are...as I told one horrified anti Hunter ,the best thing that ever happened to the bull moose I shot was it died without even hearing the shot that killed it...it didn't die of starvation,tick infestation,a broken leg or being fatally injured in a rut fight for dominance....funny,the 'animal rights' people don't want to hear that side of the story,do they?
 
I would agree with the site you got the link from, it looks like they are playing with it. Neither look very hungry or focused on eating. What the site may have failed to mention, is that the wolves idea of "playing" equals a slow and painful death for the deer. It's true the wolves are playing with the deer, but the question you have to ask is does the deer want to play with the wolves?

My thought is that predators don't take risks 'playing' with animals like a deer when one swipe of a hoof could disembowel them or break a jaw or whatever. I'm not a wolf expert so I don't know exactly how true to wolf behaviour that notion is, but it seems like it would be a simple matter of long term survival. Anyway, the case could be made that they were trying to safely kill the deer with no risk to themselves but maybe wolves are the biggest SOBs on four legs, I don't claim to know.
 
We often did not kill the moose when we hit them directly from behind, generally broke their backs. They were very much alive and the scavengers start with the butt hole, lips and eyes. The majestic eagle, etc. It is not something anyone relishes. We would call it in and sometimes a section crew could get out there to finish the job. We would also stop the train and bash their heads in, it was just to ugly to watch. Nature at its finest.
 
And probably get charged with hunting out of season. Let nature do its thing.

Actually it would be ''Poaching'' as there when there is No Season it aint hunting ;)
Nature is cruel, but thats the nature of the beast.
someone should search how Orcas chase and kill their prey.
By running it down and diving over its (the victims whale) blow hole and when the whale is to tired to continue it just stops and awaits the inevitable.
Rob
 
There is video of wolves taking Buffalo in Yellowstone down by running them into cold water and continually attacking the anus and hamstrings from behind and it can take hours for the animals to bleed out. In these cases, they use their larger numbers to take bigger game. If anyone watches that show "Alone in the Wilderness", there is a scene where he finds an animal carcass brought down by wolves that appeared to have killed the animal without any interest in eating it. I've hunted in areas just covered in wolf tracks and little or no sign of game.

This is what happens in the wild. We can't apply human morality to the survival or actions of wolves in the wild. Other predators do the same kinds of things. It is what it is.
 
I don't see a problem with what the wolves are doing, they are being wolves which is what they are supposed to be. Anthropomorphism of wildlife is always foolish, just look at Timothy Treadwell.
 
The biggest challange we as hunters face us the totally unnatural and naive views of anti hunters who have absolutely no concept of what'Nature' really is -a food chain consisting of an eco system of both prey and preditor .....being cute, warm and fuzzy has absolutely nothing to do with it...like it not,nothing lives 'happily ever after' and the worms get us all in the end...

My pet peeve right now is the seals that swim behind my boat and take the salmon off my line.....when I Was a kid,there was a $5 bounty on a seals nose and you couldn't get a 1/4 mile from one,now they slide off the rocks when you pick up a rod.....and shoot one any you are fined $5000..WHY? Seals aren't endangered,not by a long shot...anymore than BC wolves are -it's pure politics...truth is, the seals have learned what the easy pickings are,not like trying to catch them on their own
 
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