7mm Remington Magnum Build for hunting
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I believe the Practical was designed to find the point were barrel life and performance meet. The 7 Rum exceeds it but at the cost of here today gone tommorow accuracy, hot loaded 700-1000 rounds, While the STW is not there, it does wear faster than a Practical or Rem mag. I believe that the Practical is based on a 300 WM necked to 7mm.
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The STW is a bit long for the standard magazine box, and the Practical was designed to produce 7mm Ultra performance but with better barrel life. The Practical is based on a slightly blown out .300 Winchester, heavy bullets don't have to be seated as deeply as the STW and a long freebore is not required to uniform chamber pressure.
The 7mm Practical must be very close to the 28 Nosler for performance ?
This is very true but so far case life has been outstanding in it.
I did a lot of shopping around in anticipation of that expense so in my case it worked out well.
One must look around when brass becomes pricey..
The same argument can be made for Accubonds and Ballistic Tips, AB's for hunting and BT's for practice. I can usually find these, and they're comparable to the Hornady's price wise.
Yeah...giver. Same price just 50 projectiles instead of a 100
Odin,
Take a serious look at the Tikka. Wood or composite stock, you will find that the other manufacturers will be wanting.
I own a Tikka SuperVarmint in 7 Rem mag. It is not the ideal carry rifle but it does the job. My opinion is that a T3 Lite would be your choice.
All the competition says about Tikka is that is too good to improve upon.
Cheers,
Phil Fortin aka tazzman
Take a serious look at the Tikka. Wood or composite stock, you will find that the other manufacturers will be wanting.
I own a Tikka SuperVarmint in 7 Rem mag. It is not the ideal carry rifle but it does the job. My opinion is that a T3 Lite would be your choice.
All the competition says about Tikka is that is too good to improve upon.
Cheers,
Phil Fortin aka tazzman
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If he still wants to experiment with the 195 EOL he'll need an 8.5 twist, tikka 7Rem is 9.5.
The 7MM Rem mag is a EXCELLENT cartridge choice ! http://www.jccustombarrels.com/ for the barrel - JC also has a Buddy who can flute the barrel ! Make it 26 " ! B&C Alaskan 11 Stock - Timney Trigger - Vortex HST 6-24 x50 scope in Talleys ! All Just jmo !
Cheers RJ
Excellent Balanced Cartridge ! My NEXT Big 7 will be a Practical - i like belts !
jmo RJ
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Thousands of dollars into a rifle build and the debate comes down to $0.50 difference on a projectile?
What is it worth the have to bullet fail?
Sure, a cheap bullet for practice makes sense, maybe make another load for target and plinking.Make your target load and hunting load and sight in for hunting when it is hunting time, 5 shots MAXIMUM to get your zero back ok, let's say 10 and then how many games animals will be taken in an average hunting year? Lets say 5 , so for 15 bullets a year a total cost saving of ? $4.50 - for the year.
Yes, interbonds, work , but I also see people using Hornady less and less.Especially the SST's , I have a special place in hell picked out for them.
I am a major endorser for bonded bullets, my favorite are the Swift , IMO they edge out the Accubond , I my experience I got better accuracy, weight retention and ballistics with them.
That is all I use on game now , the Partitions and A-Frame are another two choices but I found the bonded had slightly more expansion but still held together , one argument can be made that the A-Frame edges out the Partition as the partition has an open core base.Personal preference but logically makes sense.
Mono mental are stout but are very velocity specific when impacting game for expected performance.
The other fragile bullets like BT's and SST 's , well they work IMO in a very narrow band of parameters , these are a good small game varmint projectile that I won't use on large game.
Bergers, for my 25-06 for coyotes and steel , and I have no interest in saving fur or ever using them on large game.
But, it is your choice in the end.
Lean towards a high performance chambering , use high performance components IMO.It is like building a race car using motomaster tires at the track because they are cheap.
What is it worth the have to bullet fail?
Sure, a cheap bullet for practice makes sense, maybe make another load for target and plinking.Make your target load and hunting load and sight in for hunting when it is hunting time, 5 shots MAXIMUM to get your zero back ok, let's say 10 and then how many games animals will be taken in an average hunting year? Lets say 5 , so for 15 bullets a year a total cost saving of ? $4.50 - for the year.
Yes, interbonds, work , but I also see people using Hornady less and less.Especially the SST's , I have a special place in hell picked out for them.
I am a major endorser for bonded bullets, my favorite are the Swift , IMO they edge out the Accubond , I my experience I got better accuracy, weight retention and ballistics with them.
That is all I use on game now , the Partitions and A-Frame are another two choices but I found the bonded had slightly more expansion but still held together , one argument can be made that the A-Frame edges out the Partition as the partition has an open core base.Personal preference but logically makes sense.
Mono mental are stout but are very velocity specific when impacting game for expected performance.
The other fragile bullets like BT's and SST 's , well they work IMO in a very narrow band of parameters , these are a good small game varmint projectile that I won't use on large game.
Bergers, for my 25-06 for coyotes and steel , and I have no interest in saving fur or ever using them on large game.
But, it is your choice in the end.
Lean towards a high performance chambering , use high performance components IMO.It is like building a race car using motomaster tires at the track because they are cheap.
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- Prince Albert, Sk
What is the point?
My Point is, why cheap out on the least expensive part of the equation.The OP is budgeting 3K for a rifle and folks are suggesting high performance chamberings.He is already looking at high priced projectile in the Bergers.
My other point,
ANY bullet can fail. Yes, I have seen interbonds fail, well to me what was a fail(s).My most memorable one, a bullet that could be loaded again after it fell on the floor after skinning a mule deer.However why not improve the odds and lessen the chances of a failure and go a bit higher end?
I never said not to use them, I merely pointed out that there are better choices and for $0.40 to $0.50 difference what is the expense?I just proved myself wrong on this point, see below pricing.
I am sure if the OP was getting an AXIS, a Lee anniversary kit , a Bushnell Banner scope , old rope for a sling and 5X fired brass from the EE then yes, I would suggest budget but as best quality as possible.
And if you want to nit pick I actually suggested an even less expensive route.
Sure, a cheap bullet for practice makes sense, maybe make another load for target and plinking.Make your target load and hunting load and sight in for hunting when it is hunting time
These look to be made of gold also...
http://www.grouseriver.com/Hornady-Interbond-7mm-284-Bullets
http://www.grouseriver.com/Nosler-Accubond-7mm-Caliber-284-Bullets
I actually pay less for Swift.
FYI - Hornady website shows interbond as being suspended.Not sure why.
My Point is, why cheap out on the least expensive part of the equation.The OP is budgeting 3K for a rifle and folks are suggesting high performance chamberings.He is already looking at high priced projectile in the Bergers.
My other point,
ANY bullet can fail. Yes, I have seen interbonds fail, well to me what was a fail(s).My most memorable one, a bullet that could be loaded again after it fell on the floor after skinning a mule deer.However why not improve the odds and lessen the chances of a failure and go a bit higher end?
I never said not to use them, I merely pointed out that there are better choices and for $0.40 to $0.50 difference what is the expense?I just proved myself wrong on this point, see below pricing.
I am sure if the OP was getting an AXIS, a Lee anniversary kit , a Bushnell Banner scope , old rope for a sling and 5X fired brass from the EE then yes, I would suggest budget but as best quality as possible.
And if you want to nit pick I actually suggested an even less expensive route.
Sure, a cheap bullet for practice makes sense, maybe make another load for target and plinking.Make your target load and hunting load and sight in for hunting when it is hunting time
These look to be made of gold also...
http://www.grouseriver.com/Hornady-Interbond-7mm-284-Bullets
http://www.grouseriver.com/Nosler-Accubond-7mm-Caliber-284-Bullets
I actually pay less for Swift.
FYI - Hornady website shows interbond as being suspended.Not sure why.
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Point is, I use sst's for practice and use interbonds on game because they shoot to the same poa and they have the same BC, so when I crank the dial on the interbond it's the same as in practice.
Interbonds are pricey...never said they weren't. And if you recovered a bullet, completely intact inside an animal....either you need to get closer or you should pick a chambering with a little more speed.
Interbonds are pricey...never said they weren't. And if you recovered a bullet, completely intact inside an animal....either you need to get closer or you should pick a chambering with a little more speed.
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