Trap and skeet 12ga. What is the best/your preference and why?

Jdiep said:
Awesome thank you for all the info I'll just keep shooting around lol. I ain't gonna hunt so I might just sell the sx3 and get a old beretta
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I guess the question is. Will The old Beretta fit you any better? If it doesn't you may be worse off. I would go and shoot a lot before buying another shotgun. That XS3 might fit you better than anything else out there. Many competitive shooters will buy several shotguns before finding the one that fits them best. Without doing a lot of shooting a change of shotgun might be a step in the wrong direction. I say this because I'm in the same position as you. I have an A400 Beretta that works fine for sporting clays and hunting, but if I continue to do more sport shooting I will want an O/U. I prefer the heavier weight and the longer barrels. However the more I shoot the more I realize that a new shotgun must be purchased after figuring out what really suits you best. I have had a lot of members let me use their shotguns. I too thought a synergy was what I wanted until I shot one. Take your time and figure things out or if you are fine with buying and selling you can go out and buy one and test drive shotguns that way.

BTW. A shotgun best suited for trap will likely not work well for sporting clays or skeet as the poi will be slightly higher. The poi is higher because you are shooting a target that is usually rising.
 
catnthehatt said:
Skeet, all doubles, all low gun with a hammer double, thank you very much!:dancingbanana:
Cat
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I'm at the point where having fun is more important than breaking every target.

I've a 725 sporting but right now the old pumps and auto loaders give me the biggest smiles

Like an 1897 riot gun at 5 stand, or an Auto5 or 1957 Ithaca 37 at trap.
 
Maritime Storm said:
Okay, I'll bite. Why would you sell your SX3? Are you fit issues? Reliability issues? With Full Choke for trap, I/C or Skeet for Skeet and that gun is suited to doing both jobs, it is well made.
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The only reason Is becuase I'm left handed and the sx3 shells eject right across my face viciously lol. At the club I did rent a few guns and a o/u has a better feel that's all.
 
g-manz35 said:
I guess the question is. Will The old Beretta fit you any better? If it doesn't you may be worse off. I would go and shoot a lot before buying another shotgun. That XS3 might fit you better than anything else out there. Many competitive shooters will buy several shotguns before finding the one that fits them best. Without doing a lot of shooting a change of shotgun might be a step in the wrong direction. I say this because I'm in the same position as you. I have an A400 Beretta that works fine for sporting clays and hunting, but if I continue to do more sport shooting I will want an O/U. I prefer the heavier weight and the longer barrels. However the more I shoot the more I realize that a new shotgun must be purchased after figuring out what really suits you best. I have had a lot of members let me use their shotguns. I too thought a synergy was what I wanted until I shot one. Take your time and figure things out or if you are fine with buying and selling you can go out and buy one and test drive shotguns that way.

BTW. A shotgun best suited for trap will likely not work well for sporting clays or skeet as the poi will be slightly higher. The poi is higher because you are shooting a target that is usually rising.
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Thanks! Ya I'll ask someone to help me shim it next time to see how it fits.
 
Mark-II said:
I'm at the point where having fun is more important than breaking every target.

I've a 725 sporting but right now the old pumps and auto loaders give me the biggest smiles

Like an 1897 riot gun at 5 stand, or an Auto5 or 1957 Ithaca 37 at trap.
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i shoot clays to keep in shape for birds !
Cat
 
Suggest you ask someone knowledgeable (like old and experienced) to check your fit first - it may be fine. Changing shims requires removing the buttstock, not a 5 minute job done on the skeet field - best have a look at your owners manual.
BTW - How many birds are you hitting out of 25?
 
On the clay course we usually do 100 birds. The first 50 I'll hit like 15-25. The last 50 I'll get more of a feel and go 30 to 40. Found a trap and skeet course a couple hours from where I live . Can't wait to try er out :)
 
cosmic said:
I guess the OP wants into the exclusive O/U club ... Shoulda said that in the first place. Buy the most expensive B gun you can afford, with lots of engraving, nice wood, etc.. Its important to be lookin' good when you miss.
Oh - and removable chokes are kinda important if you want to shoot the various clay sports.
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Its a pretty awesome club dude. We have plenty of Kraft Dinner and instant noodles because we can't afford to eat anything else from buying the gun. Its actually a plus in my opinion. Makes cooking simple. If I miss all my targets, at the end of the day I still have a nice gun. Can you say the same if you missed all your targets? Didn't think so. :p
 
Mumbles Marble Mouth said:
Its a pretty awesome club dude. We have plenty of Kraft Dinner and instant noodles because we can't afford to eat anything else from buying the gun. Its actually a plus in my opinion. Makes cooking simple. If I miss all my targets, at the end of the day I still have a nice gun. Can you say the same if you missed all your targets? Didn't think so. :p
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Dude - I'm in that awesome club. Last count 2 X Winchester 101 Pigeon grade commemoratives, 3 X Browning Superposed, 1 X Citori , 1 X Miroku Imperial grade, and 1 X Beretta 686e sporting. And yes I do miss targets fashionably, and somehow manage to eat well.


Back to the original topic. The gun I take to the range when I want to hit the most birds (and be less fashionable) is a lowly Baikal sporting gun - it just happens to fit me.
 
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Jdiep said:
I thought trap and skeet are the same what's the difference I'm a newb:s
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Jdiep said:
Ya I looked I go to this course in Alberta that does both so I guess I do both at the same time. So it's a sporting clay course.
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Jdiep said:
Ok well I'm pretty new to sport shooting. So I guses I was just looking to ask the more experience guys what's a good gun to shoot all around skeet or trap
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Jdiep said:
On the clay course we usually do 100 birds. The first 50 I'll hit like 15-25. The last 50 I'll get more of a feel and go 30 to 40. Found a trap and skeet course a couple hours from where I live . Can't wait to try er out :)
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If I were you I would keep using that SX-3... yesterday you didn't know the difference between skeet, trap and clays and today you are busting 80% of your final 50... next spring - world finals... don't change a thing.
 
As a shooter whose primary game is shooting ATA trap I will relate opinions based on my experiences. Gun fit is the most crucial element when choosing a gun however that being said if you are willing to pay to play so to speak any gun you choose can be made to fit. From experience in 30 years of attending registered shoots the number one gun that you see breaking in the middle of an event without a doubt is an autoloader. 9/10 times if a squad is being held up for a shooters broken gun it is an auto. From a reliability standpoint a QUALITY hinge/break action shotgun is by far usually the most reliable on the field with a QUALITY pump being second. With todays array of adjustable guns right from the factory and aftermarket adjustment kits that can be added on to non-adjustable guns gun fit and poi are a cinch. Dial it in and get practicing.
 
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cosmic said:
Dude - I'm in that awesome club. Last count 2 X Winchester 101 Pigeon grade commemoratives, 3 X Browning Superposed, 1 X Citori , 1 X Miroku Imperial grade, and 1 X Beretta 686e sporting. And yes I do miss targets fashionably, and somehow manage to eat well.


Back to the original topic. The gun I take to the range when I want to hit the most birds (and be less fashionable) is a lowly Baikal sporting gun - it just happens to fit me.
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Having a handful of entry level B guns IMO doesn't qualify for "The Awesome Club". Like you I have a bunch too and have owned several in higher grades yet. I even currently own and shoot an old TM-1 Perazzi in mint condition with a gorgeous upgraded stock from the factory. I currently have a Rizzini Fierce 1 Trap Combo on order as well. If some day I am able to join the "K"guns club(Kolar or Krieghoff) or can afford a better grade/model of Perazzi Trap combo then I'll say I reached the Awesome club!
 
the spank said:
Having a handful of entry level B guns IMO doesn't qualify for "The Awesome Club". Like you I have a bunch too and have owned several in higher grades yet. I even currently own and shoot an old TM-1 Perazzi in mint condition with a gorgeous upgraded stock from the factory. I currently have a Rizzini Fierce 1 Trap Combo on order as well. If some day I am able to join the "K"guns club(Kolar or Krieghoff) or can afford a better grade/model of Perazzi Trap combo then I'll say I reached the Awesome club!
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I don't believe that logic. Lu Min won bronze about a month ago in ISSF womens world cup skeet finals in Rio and all she had was a factory Beretta 686e Sporting that had the recoil pad removed to fit her better. Now that's truly the awesome club.
 
Why do these posts always go this way??? SX3 is a great gun. An 1100 is a great gun. Any O/U you have to spend some money on will be a great gun. A good shooter with a gun that doesn't fit will still outshoot a crappy shooter with a perfectly fitting gun. The price of the gun is a small price to pay when factored into the cost of ammo and targets it actually takes to get "good".

To the OP- find a Lefty stock or a "cast on" stock or a super adjustable one and you will be amazed at the difference. Most shotguns are set up for righties and not at all good for lefties. Get someone who knows fitting shotguns to help and I suspect you will be very happy.

Shooting a pump in skeet is a LOT of fun- NOBODY can argue that fact! Low-gun of course!!!
 
Nothing wrong with an SX3. Nothing wrong with a 1965 Remington 1100 with a 26" barrel and IC choke either. It's the shooter, not the gun.
 
the spank said:
From experience in 30 years of attending registered shoots the number one gun that you see breaking in the middle of an event without a doubt is an autoloader. 9/10 times if a squad is being held up for a shooters broken gun it is an auto.
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Very true. I've shot many more rounds with a breaking gun than a semi-auto but the only two times I've had to withdraw was when shooting an auto. The worst that's happened with a breaking gun was a broken leaf spring on a Perazzi and that's a two-minute fix, even less if you have a spare trigger group.

Mumbles Marble Mouth said:
Lu Min won bronze about a month ago in ISSF womens world cup skeet finals in Rio and all she had was a factory Beretta 686e Sporting that had the recoil pad removed to fit her better. Now that's truly the awesome club.
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It's a good bet Lu's gun has gotten the full treatment by the best that Beretta has to offer. Beretta is making a real push to move past Perazzi among International shooters which means they are providing guns to shooters for free and tuning them to the desired specifications. I've gotten to know some former members of the Canadian team who also shot Berettas and their 682s were nothing like the one I owned other than outside appearance.

cartwheel said:
The price of the gun is a small price to pay when factored into the cost of ammo and targets it actually takes to get "good".
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The gun is often the cheapest part of the equation. I've run the numbers and 5,000 targets a year will cost me about $4,000 in shells, targets, club membership and gas annually. In three years a regular shooter will have spent the purchase price of a Perazzi or high-end Beretta. Why spend that money on shells and targets only to scrimp on the gun?
 
Claybuster said:
Very true. I've shot many more rounds with a breaking gun than a semi-auto but the only two times I've had to withdraw was when shooting an auto. The worst that's happened with a breaking gun was a broken leaf spring on a Perazzi and that's a two-minute fix, even less if you have a spare trigger group.


It's a good bet Lu's gun has gotten the full treatment by the best that Beretta has to offer. Beretta is making a real push to move past Perazzi among International shooters which means they are providing guns to shooters for free and tuning them to the desired specifications. I've gotten to know some former members of the Canadian team who also shot Berettas and their 682s were nothing like the one I owned other than outside appearance.


The gun is often the cheapest part of the equation. I've run the numbers and 5,000 targets a year will cost me about $4,000 in shells, targets, club membership and gas annually. In three years a regular shooter will have spent the purchase price of a Perazzi or high-end Beretta. Why spend that money on shells and targets only to scrimp on the gun?
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Boom! Real talk
 
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