My 10/22 takedown is stove pipe city

RadMan said:
Not sure. With the mod the ejector pin does engage the ejecting casing more directly when no mag is inserted. I figure the ejector pin must play some role even with a ruger mag inserted... this design pre-dates aftermarket mags so the ejector pin can't be just for the butler creeks... either way while the reasoning eludes me the results were very clear.
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I wonder if having the ejector bent is actually shifting the position of the bolt? Does it rub on the bolt as if it is?

wbaad said:
My 1980's 10/22 hasn't failed....
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Oh thanks for rubbing it in. :p

I polished the guide rod last night with fine sandpaper. It wasn't exactly rough to begin with but the action does seem a bit smoother I think...unless it's just in my head. I'll get into the receiver with some sandpaper as well.

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i have 2 that are rock solid dependable. last summer I had my "gopher hb version, all customized by me" in sask gopher shooting for 5 days. we would go out and each shoot a brick in a few hours and go back to town. first day I shot without the bipod and would get some failure to feed when I was hanging on to the butler creek mag. put on the bipod and it went away. mag wants to hang free. from there on out I shot over 4 bricks of yellow jackets without a single jam, and a brick of sk match. yellow jackets are not a great feeding round due to shape. but it never missed a beat.

my cousins shot magnum research 10/22s, nice guns but very tight, they would be flawless for 1000-1500 shots then start having stovepipes. taking the action apart and giving them a good cleaning and there were good to go again. all ive ever done with my rugers is wipe clean the gunk I can without dissemble and oil. the oil I use is not heavy and seems to almost dry.

I was at a friends recently, he had a like new but slightly used deluxe version of the 1022 with the 22 inch barrel tat was giving him grief. 25 round steel lipped butler creek was jamming 4 times a mag on average wit a variety of cheaper ammo. we noticed the brass ejected at an extreme forwards angle. when they cleared the barrel they were only a foot to the right on average. a ruger 10 round mag ejected almost straight right but slightly forwards and no stove pipes. strange.

some ammo is garbage also. cheap bulk stuff, pay attention to the sound . BANG BANG bang. the quiet ones jam. with some of the bulk cheap stuff there are a noticeable amount of quieter ones and if your shooting paper they hit low at 50 yards.
 
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I worked on the inside of the receiver a bit with some 220 grit sandpaper.

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Put it back together, didn't feel any different. Then I discovered this:

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Hard to tell from the picture, but the end bulb on the guide rod is being hit by the bolt and rubbing as it moves past. This was creating a noticable stoppage and then some resistance pulling the bolt past this point. I had always thought this was from the pressure from hammer on the bolt, but now I know better.

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So i took down the radius of the bulb with a file and sandpaper. Doesn't touch the bolt now and it makes the action feel and sound much better. I have a good feeling this could have been the source of my problem.
 
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Still alive said:
In my experience, 10/22s come in two flavours: lemon and lemonade!
I've put about 200rds through mine and it worked for 196 of them. I've seen ones that can never work, ones that work after breaking in and ones that never fail. Weird beast, the 10/22!
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Ruger QC at it's finest!
 
Tried it out today...no improvement. :(

I've still got the Volquartsen extractor spring in there. So I guess I will try swapping it for the stock spring again. If that doesn't work I guess it's back to Ruger.
 
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SURESHOT73 said:
Guide rod bent mabey??
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Haven't noticed but I will have a look to make sure. Today I did some more testing, and after all stovepipe failures I noticed thr hammer wasn't cocked, but a fresh round was mounted on the bolt. So it is short stroking. I'm using CCI Mini-mags so it's not an underpowered ammo issue. I've pretty much been storing this thing with the action open and hammer cocked since I've owned it (10 weeks and 600ish rounds). I guess I just have to work on the action more I guess??
 
I would suggest maybe changing your spring. I bought a new charge handle from a place called OnTactical and it came with a new guide rod and 3 different weighted springs. And you get to chose what colour and style you want.
 
Nope not upside down. I made the video after I mirrored the bottom of the bolt and hammer. Smoothed the edges of the hammer spring guide too. Doesn't seem like anything is rough or catching on anything but the hammer spring is pretty strong...and I'm assuming that's normal.

Today I will radius the back edge of the bolt. The theory is that it allows cocking the hammer with less force because of increased leverage that comes with raising the point of impact higher and further from the fulcrum. Longest sentence I've ever wrote.
 
Did the radius bolt mod, polished it up. Made sure hammer spring guide was orientated with the washer notch facing out (ty sureshot73)...

Still effing short strokes. No improvement whatsoever.
 
OP, your cases look very burnt... like the gun has a head space problem, maybe? (either that or you should really stop oiling your ammo, lol)

This would explain the stovepipes and the brass that doesn't eject far (and is burnt)... because gasses are blowing back through the chamber, burning and deforming the case and preventing it from ejecting properly.



Try this:

 
762mm said:
OP, your cases look very burnt... like the gun has a head space problem, maybe? (either that or you should really stop oiling your ammo, lol)

This would explain the stovepipes and the brass that doesn't eject far (and is burnt)... because gasses are blowing back through the chamber, burning and deforming the case and preventing it from ejecting properly.


Try this:
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So I would say I have it snug. I followed Ruger's directions to the letter. I am one click away from it being very tight (struggle a bit to put it together like the video), and three clicks away from it being too tight to disassemble reasonably.

The accuracy does seem kinda crap though. 5-6" group at 100yd.
 
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