Ultimate tear down rifle/shotgun

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Looking at takedown carbines and possibly a takedown shotgun. Looking for something I can put in my camp bag and pull it out when needed, or keep in the trunk for easy access. Possibly use for bear defense, predator control and gopher removal. Really looking for something that will tear down and be ultra portable.

Looking at the JR carbine and aero survival rifle mainly right now. I want something quick to collapse and quick to return to fire mode.

I'd prefer something that isn't to expensive but I'm aware both of the options are both around a grand. Would be nice to find something that isn't so expensive.


I am a lefty so please keep that in mind.


Let me know what you guys think!
 
I like my Springfield Scout. 22 & .410, good for gophers, not so good for bear. Mind you, I'm not sure your JR carbine is going to bother the bear much, either. The scout breaks into two small bits with the pull of a pin. Ammo fits in the stock. Problem: no longer being made. Maybe the Chiappa x-calibre as an alternative?
 
warrenlikesboats said:
Having a bear problem in Regina Saskatchewan ?? lol
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LOL yes they are bloody everywhere!

but in reality we like going up north camping and it would be nice to pack in the bag. I do have an 870 express but I'd need to find a shorter barrel for it and its a lefty... They just arn't as easy to put in a backpack as something that is takedown or collapses.
 
if you're looking for bear defence, you'll need something a bit stronger than a pistol cartridge me thinks.

The Beretta CX-4 Storm takes down into two parts with a single large plastic drift pin. It's relatively easy to slide the two parts together and re-insert the pin.
 
Combination gun. A rifle and shotgun all in one. Looks like trade ex doesn't have any at the moment but it's a break barrel so it comes in two pieces and can be in 7x57 over 12GA.
 
Odd Shot said:
if you're looking for bear defence, you'll need something a bit stronger than a pistol cartridge me thinks.

The Beretta CX-4 Storm takes down into two parts with a single large plastic drift pin. It's relatively easy to slide the two parts together and re-insert the pin.
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I'm totally up to suggestions that isn't a carbine that is a takedown. Not to familiar with what is takedown. I figured if I could get one chambered in .45 it wouldn't do to bad against a bear. Not as good as a 12 g
 
CX-4, separated into its upper and lower components. They just slide together and are locked in place by the drift pin ahead of the trigger.

The CX-4 is available in .45 cal, but I believe that they are rare in this caliber.

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Odd Shot said:
CX-4, separated into its upper and lower components. They just slide together and are locked in place by the drift pin ahead of the trigger.

The CX-4 is available in .45 cal, but I believe that they are rare in this caliber.

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seems like the 45 is no longer made. My only concern is when it breaks down it still seems fairly bulky. What size width/length when broken down? The cx4 from my quick research sounds like its super reliable and accurate.

Another possible option is the keltech su16. Anyone have any experience with it?
 
Just got myself a Chiappa mares leg takedown in 44mag and it fits into a double pistol case. Pretty nice if you have a holster too.
 
Odd Shot said:
I'm not familiar with fending off a bear, but I'd think that any pistol round would just anger it.
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My all time favourite Field and Stream quote is from the 80's, and has stuck with me all this time.

"You can choose to carry a handgun for bear defence. If you do, ensure that it is well lubed. that way it won't hurt as much when the doctor removes it from your (keister) "
 
Might be worth looking at the new Troy PAR. NR, same ergonomics as an AR but a different design and pump action. Available right now in .223 and 300BLK, with the .308 version expected in the fall.

16" barrel and folding stock standard, or you can pop the upper off the lower similar to how an AR15 works.
 
Its hard to have a gun that is affordable to shoot gophers with, and yet powerfully enough to drop a Bear........ collapses for storage and is affordable.... shotguns are a great option, but lack range.

Id personally say your on the right track with a Carbine. Unless you can settle with some take down bolt action rifle, in which this would be the wrong forum to be asking about that.

Carbines make excellent varmint guns from my experience, they are light, quick shooting, shoot cheap hunting ammo, relatively affordable, **and easy on the ears** (hugely underrated feature) , although not the best option for bear defense, I really cant imagine a bear standing up to; let alone still being dangerous after 10rnds of handgun ammo has been pumped into him. After a 3 second reload, youd have an additional 10 rnds, thats alot of firepower! considering what our ancestors had for bear defense lol.
 
warrenlikesboats said:
Its hard to have a gun that is affordable to shoot gophers with, and yet powerfully enough to drop a Bear........ collapses for storage and is affordable.... shotguns are a great option, but lack range.

Id personally say your on the right track with a Carbine. Unless you can settle with some take down bolt action rifle, in which this would be the wrong forum to be asking about that.

Carbines make excellent varmint guns from my experience, they are light, quick shooting, shoot cheap hunting ammo, relatively affordable, **and easy on the ears** (hugely underrated feature) , although not the best option for bear defense, I really cant imagine a bear standing up to; let alone still being dangerous after 10rnds of handgun ammo has been pumped into him. After a 3 second reload, youd have an additional 10 rnds, thats alot of firepower! considering what our ancestors had for bear defense lol.
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Yea the bear defence is lesser on the list. I do have a shotgun that I'll probably take with me in bear areas but I'd like to find a shorter barrel for it. Seems left handed short barrels arnt easy to find.
 
For versatility, compact, ambidextrous, utterly reliable, accurate. TC Encore, synthetic stock, pistol length (but not pistol calibre) barrel - or two. Keep your barrel choice long enough to be non-restricted. I switch between 223 x 15" and 45-70 x 18".
 
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