quick cooey questions (840)

[wheelin_ca]

what kind of wood was used in the stock? mines a later production, and i am just wondering if i could trim down the forestock to reduce some weight, or if there was a reason its almost 2 inches wide when a cooey 84 is nice and small

also trying to figure out why the receiver/barrel of my cooey 84 is almost half a pound lighter (220g) than my 840.... (both 410) they look identical

 

[gunsaholic]

Depends. Some early 840's might have had walnut but most were hardwood, likely beech or birch. There were also about 3 different styles of forearms. Winchester took over from Cooey in 1961. So the later model 840's were produced cheaper and of different materials which could also mean lighter barrels. Measuring the wall thickness would tell you if they were made thinner. But they could also be a different steel.

 

[kamlooky]

Those Cooey 84's are starting to become collectables.
I sure wouldn't alter it as they are more sought after than the 840's.
JMHO

 

[gunsaholic]

Those Cooey 84's are starting to become collectables.
I sure wouldn't alter it as they are more sought after than the 840's.
JMHO

I think it is an 840 that he wants to alter.

 

[1963beretta]

I would post a WTB ad and buy another stock to use. There are lots of people who have the original style forestock sitting in a parts bin that they could sell. I posted a WTB ad a while ago and got lots of messages. I suspect you'll get as many hits as a ####star would at a highschool dance

 

[kamlooky]

I think it is an 840 that he wants to alter.

I can read and I did understand the O.P.'s comments.
Just a supple reminder of the 84 values going up.

 

[grelmar]

I can read and I did understand the O.P.'s comments.
Just a supple reminder of the 84 values going up.

All Cooey's are moving towards being collectible. Everyone wants to have a Cooey rimfire and a Cooey shotgun in their cabinet, right beside their Longbranch Enfield.

Reminds people of a time when this was a free country.

 

[gravis]

Okay so I've got a couple .410 oldies.....

The 84, near as I can tell is case hardened with really nice colour, that I personally value
higher than my 840 Winchester-Western. Although the Win has checkered wood... the action looks like like bronze patina ? Is that pretty much the only differences between them ?

 

[gunsaholic]

No, pretty much the whole gun is made cheaper. Lower quality wood, plastic forearm spacer, and cast (pot metal?) trigger and trigger guard .

 

[grelmar]

The receiver of the first gun looks case hardened.

If it's for sale...

 

[saskbooknut]

Late 840 shotguns are stocked in birch or beech with the colour in the stock finish. Blonde wood might be hard to colour match if you alter the forend.
For shooting clays, or wingshooting the later semi-beavertail is a better profile I M H O.
Quite a few Cooey 84 and 840 shotguns are used for black powder Trap in our club.

 

[gravis]

Seems like walnut ? On mine... Checkered

Were the early 840's better than later ones ? I haven't been able to figure out year of mfg?

 

[gunsaholic]

It's possible that some early 840's had walnut stocks.

 

[gravis]

But the rest of the pitfalls you mention would come with all 840's ?

 

[gunsaholic]

But the rest of the pitfalls you mention would come with all 840's ?

In most cases yes. If the gun has the plastic forearm spacer and cast trigger guard etc. it has the lower quality pitfalls. Your 840 has the lower quality, compared to a model 84. I think some very early 840's (can't remember for sure) may have had the same construction as the 84. But one look at the gun would indicate that. Plastic forearm spacers can be replaced with the steel ones though.