Talk me out of a Benelli M4

All my others shotguns have been safequeen since the M4 joined the herd... It is simply the best on the market... JP.

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I had a M4, sold it because it got slow at work and I have bills to pay. As soon as I can save up $2000-$2500 I am getting another one. Most fun you can have with your pants on. Mine was a 18" barrel (with chokes) and it was very accurate with slugs too. Here is one downside...I made some ground targets up with old milk jugs at the range, and brought a whole case of shells. Well the case was gone in 30 minutes, that gets pricey :)
 
The only thing I'd offer if you're looking for reasons not to buy it is that you can get the Benelli Supernova Tactical pump for less than half the cost, ie the one with the pistol grip and collapsible stock.

I love semi-autos, but only in smaller calibres like 22LR, 9mm, or 5.56/223. Semi auto shotguns are extremely difficult to fire rapidly and stay on target, so in order to keep on target you need to slow down anyway, so you may as well pump for that one second.

So my argument is spend half that on a very high quality SuperNova, and spend that other thousand on something more useful than semi-auto on a gun that can't really use it effectively.
 
The Benelli M4 is not cheap but as in all cases you get what you pay for, I have over 1500 rounds through mine never cleaned it and still functions awesome, try that with a cheap auto loader
 
The capacity will still be 5

A capacity of five 3.5" shells means you can fit at least seven 2.75" shells, legally, as long as the gun is marked as being chambered for 3.5".

Petamocto said:
The only thing I'd offer if you're looking for reasons not to buy it is that you can get the Benelli Supernova Tactical pump for less than half the cost, ie the one with the pistol grip and collapsible stock.

I love semi-autos, but only in smaller calibres like 22LR, 9mm, or 5.56/223. Semi auto shotguns are extremely difficult to fire rapidly and stay on target, so in order to keep on target you need to slow down anyway, so you may as well pump for that one second.

So my argument is spend half that on a very high quality SuperNova, and spend that other thousand on something more useful than semi-auto on a gun that can't really use it effectively.

I'd argue that semiauto are that much more controllable when shooting quickly, try pulling off a real double tap with a pump for example.

Not only do most semis have at least somewhat less recoil, but a fixed forend means you can fully dedicate that hand to locking the gun in place.

There are some folks who are extremely fast with a pump no doubt, but even elite shooters seem to be a touch faster with a modern semi.

There's also the reality of short stroking, it happens even under benign conditions, I've seen shotgun Jedi like Louis Awerbuck, Chris Costa and others, manage to short stroke on their own training videos...
 
With a ghost shell on the carrier plate , one in the chamber, and 5 2 and 3/4 shells in the tube that is 7 shells availables off my M4... Pretty good if you ask... JP.
 
the m4 is the most reliable semi-auto shotgun of its style. the gas system can have one of the two self regulating pistons jam, and still work. (internet pic below)

a friend of mine bought a M2 and it worked perfect, accurate fast follow up shots too, but he always regretted not spending the extra money and getting the M4.

like other people have said.. buy once, cry once.

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I find it hard to justify that kind of money on a shotgun. As far as "black" firearms go, I think one of the principal virtues of the shotgun is that you can buy a perfectly serviceable pump gun for much less than an AR.

That said, the custom Versamax route from TacOrd does look attractive if you want a high end shotgun. The Beretta 1301 also has potential, especially since someone has come up with a widget to fix the bolt release flaw:

http://taudevgroup.com/1301/
 
A capacity of five 3.5" shells means you can fit at least seven 2.75" shells, legally, as long as the gun is marked as being chambered for 3.5".



I'd argue that semiauto are that much more controllable when shooting quickly, try pulling off a real double tap with a pump for example.

Not only do most semis have at least somewhat less recoil, but a fixed forend means you can fully dedicate that hand to locking the gun in place.

There are some folks who are extremely fast with a pump no doubt, but even elite shooters seem to be a touch faster with a modern semi.

There's also the reality of short stroking, it happens even under benign conditions, I've seen shotgun Jedi like Louis Awerbuck, Chris Costa and others, manage to short stroke on their own training videos...

Interesting

The M4s Ive seen are all marked for 3" shells - or are there two versions (the other being the 3.5" variant)?
 
All my others shotguns have been safequeen since the M4 joined the herd... It is simply the best on the market... JP.

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So did you change the stock on that?

I actually like the M4 stock but if I were to change it I would want something like this:

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