Found a rifle today - UPDATE post #60
- Thread starter ArmedGinger
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Vinigar and water will not turn the rust black but will remove the bluing.
The rifle was barreled by the late Art Bourne but I don't know if he made the stock. Art was a very capable gunsmith who worked in Red Deer, Lethbridge, and Kamloops during his gunsmithing career during the '60's and '70's.
The rifle was barreled by the late Art Bourne but I don't know if he made the stock. Art was a very capable gunsmith who worked in Red Deer, Lethbridge, and Kamloops during his gunsmithing career during the '60's and '70's.
Ok I've never held a Ross Rifle before. Are they supposed to be annoying to cycle the bolt? If I have the rifle in my lap or slightly tilted when operating the bolt is binds when trying to push it forward. But if I have the rifle shouldered and sitting perfectly straight, I can work the bolt as if my life depended on it for as long as needed and fast as possible, as smooth as an oiled Playboy Bunny.
- Location
- Southern Vancouver Island
Seeing as the Ross is not a CRF action, it only makes sense that the beasty be held straight to function as designed. The old military manuals for these arms made a point of this.
That does make sense
- Location
- The Conservative part of Ontario
If there is no rivet in the top center of the bolt, be very careful on re-assembly that it is done correctly.
Mine has no such rivet.
The rivet was put there to prevent a condition that allows the cartridge to be fired without the bolt being locked up.
Properly assembled, the bolt head should sit 3/4 of an inch ahead of the body when in the rails bolt open.
It should also be necessary to pull it out and turn it against spring force in order to assemble it.
Watch as you close the bolt to see that the bolt head rotates as it closes and you're good.
Mine has no such rivet.
The rivet was put there to prevent a condition that allows the cartridge to be fired without the bolt being locked up.
Properly assembled, the bolt head should sit 3/4 of an inch ahead of the body when in the rails bolt open.
It should also be necessary to pull it out and turn it against spring force in order to assemble it.
Watch as you close the bolt to see that the bolt head rotates as it closes and you're good.
The trigger guard assembly is that of a .280 sporter. In all likelihood, the rifle was a .280. No issues with a properly done .300 Magnum conversion, the action is a strong one. The bolt sleeve rivets were installed during WW2, on rifles that were still in service. You would not expect to see one in a sporting rifle. It is really easy to see if the bolt is turning to lock when closing. When a Ross action is being closed, the cartridge head slides up under the extractor. Doesn't that make it a CRF action?
- Location
- Southern Vancouver Island
No chance of being a true CRF action, especially when one is putting a cartridge with a rim diameter of .530" onto a bolt face of .556" which is the rim diameter of .280 Ross. Best way to test this is to remove the bolt from the rifle, snap a loaded round onto the bolt face and then hold the bolt parallel to the ground.
I'm really sure that the OP's bolt will allow the cartridge to fall free.
Actually a VERY strong action. Years ago P.O. Ackley did blow up tests on many of the popular military bolt actions of the time. The M10 Ross surpassed both the 1903 Springfield and the 98 Mauser. As has been noted the bolt could be assembled improperly resulting in the bolt closing but the lugs not fully engaged. BAD NEWS!! If you hold an M10 in your hands and close the action while watching the locking lugs turn into their recesses during the last bit of bolt travel you can plainly see the lugs turn 90 degrees to engage properly. If not the bolt is assembled incorrectly and must be taken apart and reassembled.
What is a .303 Model 10, with cut down wood, but really good bore, original screwed on front sight with hood and the original fully adjustable rear aperture target type sight, worth on the market now?
Oops, I'll get told you need a picture. Just think good average used condition and rounded out figure.
Oops, I'll get told you need a picture. Just think good average used condition and rounded out figure.
I knew a retired 'smith here in Vancouver (sadly gone now) who did lovely conversions to Ross rifles. Had one in 7mm mag he would bring to the range.
My own Ross is a home-"sportered" M10 with cut wood and a shortened barrel. Was my first rifle, given to me at 13 by an old family friend in 1967.
My own Ross is a home-"sportered" M10 with cut wood and a shortened barrel. Was my first rifle, given to me at 13 by an old family friend in 1967.
About $300-$400 from what I've seen
Blastattack
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Winnipeg MB
Can't imagine why. They were proofed as high as anything today. The .280s were proofed to 28 tons per square inch, which equates to about 84000 PSI. Also that was with a greased or oiled cartridge; 100% of that force force went back into the bolt, close to none being absorbed by the case sticking to the chamber walls
I can't say anything about the 280 but the 303 in my shop is very definitely a CRF action. The cartridge, as it is stripped from the magazine, comes up behind the extractor and is held there through the loading and firing cycle.
The actions are very strong. In fact, the bolt and receiver design of the Ross may be stronger than that of any other military rifle of the period. To my knowledge, only the Japanese Arisaka may be as strong.
The actions are very strong. In fact, the bolt and receiver design of the Ross may be stronger than that of any other military rifle of the period. To my knowledge, only the Japanese Arisaka may be as strong.
This Ross does not do that sadly
steve-o1979
Regular
- Location
- Nova Scotia
Pretty amazing... That rifle sat there all that time with a live round in the chamber, and despite what the gun grabbers think, it never shot a single person !
So it finally stopped raining long enough to take the rifle out. The scope that was on the rifle when I got it wasn't that great and the only spare scope I had was a cheap Simmons off an old .22LR rifle.
The ammo was what you see, 220gr, that I found with the rifle in the locker. The price on the box $25.99 shows that the ammo was purchased awhile ago
After sighting the rifle in I did this four shot group. Not the greatest but I think with a better scope and a proper gun rest (forgot my sandbags), and some other types of ammo it might tighten up a little.
The first shot was done with my eyes closed though, just in case
$25.99, Home Hardware, St. Jacobs Ontario.
Going to need a new stock though I think. The grip is way too small for my hands, most of my hand hangs down below off the rifle. So does anyone make a stock for the Ross rifle?
The ammo was what you see, 220gr, that I found with the rifle in the locker. The price on the box $25.99 shows that the ammo was purchased awhile ago
After sighting the rifle in I did this four shot group. Not the greatest but I think with a better scope and a proper gun rest (forgot my sandbags), and some other types of ammo it might tighten up a little.
The first shot was done with my eyes closed though, just in case
$25.99, Home Hardware, St. Jacobs Ontario.
Going to need a new stock though I think. The grip is way too small for my hands, most of my hand hangs down below off the rifle. So does anyone make a stock for the Ross rifle?
