Teach me about the CZ-75 SP01!

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So I got a good deal off a co worker today on a very lightly used SP01 with some goodies! He had it modified a year or so back for IPSC, and then fell out of love with it and it sat. There's only about 700 rounds down the tube by his account! He threw in a pelican case, holster, 2 mags, and some ammo with a bunch of trays to sweeten the deal.

It's an SP01 (not a shadow) that's got a wonderful rocker safety that I'm told is aftermarket, and a flat face trigger that obviously is. I'm loving the trigger on it so far; there's very little take up, and it's very, very light. I believe he said its around a 3lb pull on it. There's a set of tru dot night sights on it, but I don't know if those are OEM or not. Probably the coolest part about the gun is that it's been converted to single action as well- which will be a nice offset to my sigs if I decide to keep the gun.

Some things I've noticed/questions:

Takedown is a pain compared to my Glock and sigs. What a strange design.

What's the deal with the plastic recoil guide rod? I've never seen that

Any known issues to watch for?

How much would something like this be worth? I'm considering selling it if I can make a couple bucks, or I may trade it.
 
jory said:
Some things I've noticed/questions:

Takedown is a pain compared to my Glock and sigs. What a strange design.

What's the deal with the plastic recoil guide rod? I've never seen that

Any known issues to watch for?

How much would something like this be worth? I'm considering selling it if I can make a couple bucks, or I may trade it.
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It's an evolutionary rather than a modern design so the take down is a bit more complicated. Have you tried taking down and reassembling a 1911? It can drive you nuts until you figure it out.
The Gen 2 Glocks had plastic recoil guide rods too. Not unusual.
Some SP-01s have had their slide stops crack off.
It would be worth a lot less once the Shadow 2 comes out. Should sell quickly at $8-900 esp since some people love the SA only conversion.
 
Nice gun. Don't wonder too much about selling it, if you got a good price, put another 300 rounds through it before you think about selling it. If you put it on the EE you'll get a ton of questions you can't answer, or you might get 100 people jumping on it. It's a used, modified gun. Know what it's worth to you, not what you're told it's worth, before you put it up for sale. If you love it and it's a solid shooter hang on to it. You might be very sorry you sold it for a profit!
 
Oh trust me, i'll top it up to that even 1k rounds. Gotta play with it a bit before I let it go (if I do). I've got my eye on a couple different things right now though, so unless I fall in love with it, it may find a new home.

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That's a bit special. It's got an SA only kit in it from the looks of the trigger. That would explain why you say there's not a lot of takeup in the trigger.

The CZ SA guns are DARN nice.

Of course due to this if you elect to try some competitions it will force you away from stock and production classes due to the lack of a DA capability for the first shot. Instead you'll be in the "Standard" class in IPSC or the "Enhanced Service Pistol" or ESP in IDPA. For other competitions it may or may not affect you.

Any way you cut it though that's a sweet gun with that trigger.
 
BCRider said:
That's a bit special. It's got an SA only kit in it from the looks of the trigger. That would explain why you say there's not a lot of takeup in the trigger.

The CZ SA guns are DARN nice.

Of course due to this if you elect to try some competitions it will force you away from stock and production classes due to the lack of a DA capability for the first shot. Instead you'll be in the "Standard" class in IPSC or the "Enhanced Service Pistol" or ESP in IDPA. For other competitions it may or may not affect you.

Any way you cut it though that's a sweet gun with that trigger.
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I won't be shooting any IPSC with this one if I keep it- I'm planning on getting something striker fired for any competition stuff. Aside from wanting an ambi control gun, I want to negate my risk of being DQ'ed due to hammer issues. If I don't fall in love with the way it shoots, I may look at trading it towards a P320/G17/M&P

Mr. Friendly said:
I haven't shot mine yet.

ordered myself a P-09 but they sent me an SP-01 Tactical by accident. said if they sold it to me at cost, I'd keep it they did. :D
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Nice!
 
Silveragent said:
People do get DQed with that so training is important. You will see way more Shadows than any other single make of gun in IPSC, just saying.
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Yeah it's crazy how many people have them! Between my black badge and chatting with some folks, it sounds like sneezing the wrong way gets you a DQ during an IPSC match, and my tolerance for booking a day off work, driving hundreds of KM's, paying for a hotel, and then being DQ'ed and sent home- is less than 0. I'd rather mitigate my risk in any and every way possible. I have no doubt that they're great pistols for IPSC, and by no means am I an unsafe shooter, but I think shooting striker fired would take a lot of stress out of the event for me.
 
The hammer thing is no biggie vs how great a gun it is for actually shooting the match, that's what I'm saying. I don't think focusing on that tiny detraction is worth worrying over. Loading and making ready and unloading and showing clear is when you can take your time being safe. Thousands of CZ shooters in IPSC worldwide have learned to be safe with it.

I've been DQed for piddly #### and that's just the nature of the sport - lesson learned. You can always shoot club matches until you are comfortable with the system.

If you have your heart set on a striker fired gun, make that decision for the right reasons.
 
jory said:
Yeah it's crazy how many people have them! Between my black badge and chatting with some folks, it sounds like sneezing the wrong way gets you a DQ during an IPSC match, and my tolerance for booking a day off work, driving hundreds of KM's, paying for a hotel, and then being DQ'ed and sent home- is less than 0. I'd rather mitigate my risk in any and every way possible. I have no doubt that they're great pistols for IPSC, and by no means am I an unsafe shooter, but I think shooting striker fired would take a lot of stress out of the event for me.
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It's not as bad as that. I shoot hammer guns in IDPA and when I was shooting IPSC my Shadow was the gun of choice. The key is lots of practice and when called on to load and make ready that you proceed in a calm and deliberate manner checking yourself all along the way. There's no time limit on what it takes to load, prep, check and holster.

The same applies to a striker fired gun. Go slow, chamber check and during the holstering take your time to know exactly where your trigger finger is and move the gun into the holster at a pace that allows you to feel for anything out of the ordinary.... such as your shirt tail getting caught in between the gun and holster.
 
I hear you guys for sure. I'm going to weigh my options. Like I said, I never intended to keep this gun anyway. We'll see if that changes if/when I get a chance to shoot it. For now, i'm looking at it as an opportunity to make a couple bucks.
 
I picked up an STI 1911 for 3 gun. It shoots amazing. Then I compared the 1911 to a shadow, and the groupings, in my hands, were roughly the same. It is a great shooting pistol. I have become picky and am not a fan of the dbl-sngl trigger. I'd rather just have one straight pull, but thats just me and definitely not the majority.
 
Well guys I'm having a couple issues with this thing. The trigger is having some issues resetting, and I can't figure out why.

- the gun will fire one round, then the trigger goes mushy
- at first, I could use my thumb and pull the hammer back a bit farther and it would reset the trigger
- after a while, that stopped working, and the trigger wouldn't reset at all
- if I remove the slide, the hammer and trigger work as normal
- if I put the slide back on the frame, it works fine until the slide goes as far as the trigger bar, then it goes mushy
- if I have the slide off, and the hammer back, it will work- but as soon as I pull the slide past the trigger bar, it goes to mush, even if I pull the slide back off

The two upper tabs in this picture is the part that is affected by the slide coming back. Up until the slide contacts those two tabs, the hammer and trigger are just fine.

http://www.ipscstore.eu/en/cz/335-cz-sp-01-trigger-bar.html
 
BCRider said:
It's not as bad as that. I shoot hammer guns in IDPA and when I was shooting IPSC my Shadow was the gun of choice. The key is lots of practice and when called on to load and make ready that you proceed in a calm and deliberate manner checking yourself all along the way. There's no time limit on what it takes to load, prep, check and holster.

The same applies to a striker fired gun. Go slow, chamber check and during the holstering take your time to know exactly where your trigger finger is and move the gun into the holster at a pace that allows you to feel for anything out of the ordinary.... such as your shirt tail getting caught in between the gun and holster.
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I don't know what kind of competitive shooting I want to get into yet, so I don't know all that much about IPSC but wouldn't getting the tactical model with a decocker fix those hammer issues for those worried about em?
 
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