re-register AR15 lower after assembly?

It can and will be registered to the barrel you inform them of, however you will be transferred to the lab and asked more questions. If it's not on the FRT you will be waiting until the lab does some research.

I had the lab ask me where I have purchased my barrels and they followed up by calling the US fabricator.

Eg:

1) I completed an NEA lower and upper with a 20" 6.8 SPC and was transferred to the lab after the CFO could not locate this setup from NEA on the FRT. busted..........now I must wait for the lab to complete their research.

2) completed a Midway Industry receiver set with a 16" ARP barrel .30 HAR which the nice lady could not find on the FRT. busted.............transferred to the lab and needed to wait for 1 year to have it re-registered.

3) completed an Armalite lower with a Aero Precision upper and a 14.5" 5.56 barrel. The nice lady quickly responded that the registration checked out and I would receive the certificate in the mail. My Spikes, Aero Precision and a couple of others went this smoothly.

I am prepared to be waiting on a long delay with my current .277 WLV build on new Aero receivers.


I had that happen with a PWS lower and the Colt Canada IUR. Waited about 4 months before I received my registration paper because it wasnt on the frt
 
No no, I get that. It was more inquiring what the process would be for that scenario...call lab, wait forever. Got it :)

Sorry...I've had one where I waited for months as there was no existing FRT but for any of my others in a common barrel length and there was an FRT, no issues. For your SFRC branded lower, depends on whether anyone else has already registered one with the same calibre and barrel length as you build...
 
I had that happen with a PWS lower and the Colt Canada IUR. Waited about 4 months before I received my registration paper because it wasnt on the frt

Yes it can be a long drawn out process if you are willing to follow the rules and correctly register each AR. Or you can roll the dice and play the 30 day window card..........for ever. (Which I don't recommend)
 
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I've never had to wait any longer than the usual wait when you purchase a firearm!
AFAIR when I called in a re-registration, they asked the lower's certificate info and then proceeded to ask me the barrel length and caliber. I answered. Thank you. You should receive your updated paper shortly.
And they came in soon after within a few weeks as I recall.
 
Sorry...I've had one where I waited for months as there was no existing FRT but for any of my others in a common barrel length and there was an FRT, no issues. For your SFRC branded lower, depends on whether anyone else has already registered one with the same calibre and barrel length as you build...

Haha, I'm thinking it's been long enough that others should have beat me to it :)
 
I just got registration papers for an Aero lower, and in the barrel length section it says 'frame/receiver only'. Does this mean I have to re-register it when I have assembled it into something functional?
Yes, you just need to call the CFO. I did it couple years ago.
 
OK.

I've got the same question in reverse:

Say I've got a 14.5 complete rifle and I want to part it out, I take the upper off and sell it to some guy, I'm left with a lower.
I'm assuming I need to call and tell them it's just a frame/receiver now and that's it it's done and over with?
 
Just called in 2 re-registrations this afternoon and had a lengthy conversation with them.

It is NOT a firearm until you have a barrel on it. Final word. Period.

I am still waiting to speak with our Ontario CFO regarding being able to transport it to the range.
However, again, you can transport your fully built lower as it IS registered. They do not consider it a firearm unless it is complete. That too is FINAL

Feel free to verify for yourselves Gents. I'll go with that, which I have from time....Cheers :cheers:
 
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once you add the LPK and buffer, it's no longer a frame only.

If you purchase a complete lower (Colt Canada enhanced ambi for example) you will find that the registration certificate says frame/receiver only, so no.

Attaching an upper to a lower is not a "modification" according to the plain English meaning of the word. Do modify your travel trailer when you hook it up to your truck?

If the Turdeau Liberals prohibit the AR, what would you rather turn in - a stripped lower receiver, or complete firearm? Why not turn in all the accessories while you are at it?
 
OK.

I've got the same question in reverse:

Say I've got a 14.5 complete rifle and I want to part it out, I take the upper off and sell it to some guy, I'm left with a lower.
I'm assuming I need to call and tell them it's just a frame/receiver now and that's it it's done and over with?

You must re-register an AR each time the barrel has been changed to a different length from the original certificate. So the short answer is, YES. So if you remove the upper and sell the hardware the lower needs to be re-registered as a lower/receiver only.
 
Just called in 2 re-registrations this afternoon and had a lengthy conversation with them.

It is NOT a firearm until you have a barrel on it. Final word. Period.

I am still waiting to speak with our Ontario CFO regarding being able to transport it to the range.
However, again, you can transport your fully built lower as it IS registered. They do not consider it a firearm unless it is complete. That too is FINAL

Feel free to verify for yourselves Gents. I'll go with that, which I have from time....Cheers :cheers:

If you transfer a completed lower coupled to an upper AND get "stopped" for what ever reason, you can explain that it has just been assembled and it is under the 30 days. However the LEO will call it in and the rifle will now be in the crosshairs of the CFO and you will be notified if it had not been re-registered after your 30 days. The RCMP firearms branch is very thorough and will follow up. Trust me!
 
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Just called in 2 re-registrations this afternoon and had a lengthy conversation with them.

It is NOT a firearm until you have a barrel on it. Final word. Period.

I am still waiting to speak with our Ontario CFO regarding being able to transport it to the range.
However, again, you can transport your fully built lower as it IS registered. They do not consider it a firearm unless it is complete. That too is FINALs:

REALLY? So if it remove the barrel then the remaining receiver is now no longer a firearm and doesn't need to be registered? BULLSH!T.

That you spoke to someone who hasn't got a clue doesn't mean what they told you is law. If you actually read the actual law, it is quite specific in that the receiver IS the firearm and adding or removing parts doesn't change that fact.

With respect to an AR, as long as the receiver is registered then the thing is registered. That CFC doesn't like or understand the modular nature of the AR is irrelevant. If the thing is registered as a receiver and you get stopped with it assembled as a rifle, is not the receiver, and thus the gun still registered? What would they charge you with? The thing is registered.
 
You don't need to register uppers or associate your lower with any upper. Anything else is stupid. Just b/c the govt. is stupid does not mean you have to be.

PS - while you were sleeping I broke in and fit a half-dozen different uppers to your lower. You now have 30 days to call it in, but I'm not going to tell you what they were.

Good luck!
 
REALLY? So if it remove the barrel then the remaining receiver is now no longer a firearm and doesn't need to be registered? BULLSH!T.

I don't think that is what he meant......if a barrel is removed from a lower that was registered as a complete AR then it needs to be re-registered as a receiver/frame only. If you purchase another upper the transfer needs to be reversed from a re ever/frame only back to a complete AR

That you spoke to someone who hasn't got a clue doesn't mean what they told you is law. If you actually read the actual law, it is quite specific in that the receiver IS the firearm and adding or removing parts doesn't change that fact.

With respect to an AR, as long as the receiver is registered then the thing is registered. Registered as what? A receiver/frame only or as a receiver with a barrel length?That CFC doesn't like or understand the modular nature of the AR is irrelevant. If the thing is registered as a receiver and you get stopped with it assembled as a rifle, is not the receiver, and thus the gun still registered? What would they charge you with? The thing is registered.


I will respectfully disagree and suggest the CFO and RCMP do know the law and should follow their directive. Reading the law is self explanatory.
 
I will respectfully disagree and suggest the CFO and RCMP do know the law and should follow their directive. Reading the law is self explanatory.

Do they now?

So you think it was within the law to require range membership to get an ATT or purchase a restricted or Non restricted required trigger locks to transport? Or the near endless list of time they did not?

Shawn
 
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