ATRS Sheep Hunting Rifle...

I am sheer with a lighter scope that rifle would be just a tad heaver then 7.5 lb
but fore a guy living in Alberta a heaver high end scope is a handy thing
 
Superbrad said:
Ok..... Guess I am out to lunch...... Jack O'Conner aka "mister sheep Hunter" must have been out to lunch as well.......

http://www.rifleshootermag.com/rifles/featured_rifles_sheep_061305/

Now, if you will excuse me, I am off to the garden to dig a hole with a plastic spoon, upon completion, I plan to declare the spoon a shovel.......
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How many big horns have you hunted/shot out in Ontario?

All of the rams i have seen/hunted/shot have been out here in the tall mountains of the rockys. I saw all of those rams after packing my 50-60 pound pack up the side of a mountain. Trust me when i say this...i am an ultralight hunter. I have a 2" long tooth brush, all of my gear is the lightest and the best quality mountain hunting gear you can buy. I ration my food on a total calorie per gram basis. I know some people are skeptical of me calling this my "sheep rifle" and thats just fine. But i spend close to 60 days a year in the mountains chasing these critters. I chose this gun not because of the Ultra Light, but because it is built of the best quality parts that i could find.

As for ole Jack O'Conner, i have every single one of his books, in first addition and most are signed. All of his .270 rifles were of the old wood stock that weighed much more than my 8.5 pound rifle. Im not saying you are wrong. I am simply saying that for me this gun is right. If you want to disagree, please come out west and join me on one of my expeditions into sheep country with your 5 pound rifle. I bet after the 100th Km, the 3 extra pounds in my pack wont be the difference maker out there.
 
lmart said:
How many big horns have you hunted/shot out in Ontario?

All of the rams i have seen/hunted/shot have been out here in the tall mountains of the rockys. I saw all of those rams after packing my 50-60 pound pack up the side of a mountain. Trust me when i say this...i am an ultralight hunter. I have a 2" long tooth brush, all of my gear is the lightest and the best quality mountain hunting gear you can buy. I ration my food on a total calorie per gram basis. I know some people are skeptical of me calling this my "sheep rifle" and thats just fine. But i spend close to 60 days a year in the mountains chasing these critters. I chose this gun not because of the Ultra Light, but because it is built of the best quality parts that i could find.

As for ole Jack O'Conner, i have every single one of his books, in first addition and most are signed. All of his .270 rifles were of the old wood stock that weighed much more than my 8.5 pound rifle. Im not saying you are wrong. I am simply saying that for me this gun is right. If you want to disagree, please come out west and join me on one of my expeditions into sheep country with your 5 pound rifle. I bet after the 100th Km, the 3 extra pounds in my pack wont be the difference maker out there.
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I would go in a hart beat sound like fun to me when are we going haahaa
 
lmart said:
How many big horns have you hunted/shot out in Ontario?

All of the rams i have seen/hunted/shot have been out here in the tall mountains of the rockys. I saw all of those rams after packing my 50-60 pound pack up the side of a mountain. Trust me when i say this...i am an ultralight hunter. I have a 2" long tooth brush, all of my gear is the lightest and the best quality mountain hunting gear you can buy. I ration my food on a total calorie per gram basis. I know some people are skeptical of me calling this my "sheep rifle" and thats just fine. But i spend close to 60 days a year in the mountains chasing these critters. I chose this gun not because of the Ultra Light, but because it is built of the best quality parts that i could find.

As for ole Jack O'Conner, i have every single one of his books, in first addition and most are signed. All of his .270 rifles were of the old wood stock that weighed much more than my 8.5 pound rifle. Im not saying you are wrong. I am simply saying that for me this gun is right. If you want to disagree, please come out west and join me on one of my expeditions into sheep country with your 5 pound rifle. I bet after the 100th Km, the 3 extra pounds in my pack wont be the difference maker out there.
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Lol..... I have no beef with anyone, I offered an opinion...... One developed based on reading, research, testimony from sheep hunters with lots of experience, a goat guide etc.... I never declared myself a sheep rifle expert, I offered an opinion for discussion on a chat forum..... In spite of what Chuck might have you think, it happens...... This would be a very boring place to be if we all agreed on everything or didn't take the time to offer opinions for discussion.....

I think you have a really cool build on your hands as stated earlier..... Based on what you said above I look at the extra two - three pounds as a lost opportunity to carry more luxuries..... Especially in the food category where consumption causes weight reduction over time...... But that's just me......

As far as experience, you certainly have me cornered in the sheep experience department...... I have actually done a decent amount of mountain hunting, but certainly not at sheep altitudes..... And by decent, I mean decent for an Ontarian who is on outfitted hunts...... Have done other strenuous types of hunting as well..... Timberwolf week long hunts in sub zero on snow shoe over week long periods in 3 feet of snow comes to mind...... So let's not turn this into a provincial d1ck measuring contest...... When you are willing to travel outside your comfort zone for an adventure, it really doesn't matter where you live.....

Anyways, as much as this thread went sideways, unlike some others I like to learn from those more experienced than I and am passionate about hunting...... It's why I am hear..... In making my comments, I was hoping that a discussion wood get going...... But since I am addressing you directly, I am interested in why you made the choice you did and what made you choose the components you did....... I am sure the rifle was purpose built for a reason and I would love to hear the story...... Certainly the cost was north of a Kimber mountain ascent, and I would like to hear why so I can add your input to my learnings..... For example, why a bull barrel?.....

i know you got some negative flack in this thread that was uncalled for..... But it certainly didn't come from me.....
 
a bit off topic
last year I lost a uncle to cancer and now have a nether uncle dealing with cancer and its not looking good for him
im 49 and still really healthy thay not much older then me
So this year im working on my hunting bucket list well im still healthy
so its elk gout sheep pronghorn
Go do it well you can time and heath slips a way quickly
 
Superbrad said:
Ok..... Guess I am out to lunch...... Jack O'Conner aka "mister sheep Hunter" must have been out to lunch as well.......

http://www.rifleshootermag.com/rifles/featured_rifles_sheep_061305/

Now, if you will excuse me, I am off to the garden to dig a hole with a plastic spoon, upon completion, I plan to declare the spoon a shovel.......
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What is hilarious about all of this is the fact that O'Connor did most of his sheep hunting with rifles over 8.5lbs and I'm not convinced that any of his sheep rifles weighed less than 8. Both rifles of bodingtons pictured in that article weigh over 8.5 lbs as well.
 
chuck nelson said:
What is hilarious about all of this is the fact that O'Connor did most of his sheep hunting with rifles over 8.5lbs and I'm not convinced that any of his sheep rifles weighed less than 8. Both rifles of bodingtons pictured in that article weigh over 8.5 lbs as well.
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Yes, because O'Conner had access to Carbon fiber barrels, aluminum, titanium etc....... He hunted with the lightest gear available at the time........ Fail to see the hilarity, but keep going, you are doing terrific......
 
carverk said:
I like the ultra light rifles a lot
But I cant help but wonder how light you can go before a rifle becomes fragile ?
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Stock wise a 24 oz McEdge is not fragile, neither is my 19.7 oz Wildcat, Brown apparently has some models in the 15 oz range, and given their reputation I doubt they are fragile. I've heard of a 9 oz MPI that was very fragile and not overly stiff. Believe that thread was on 24 hour campfire.
 
chuck nelson said:
You posted the link, not me.
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I did indeed...... Did you miss the part about the ideal sheep rifle?.....

I unlike you, am not willing to define a "sheep rifle" as any rifle that has been used to harvest a sheep....... I am more interested in learning from people like the OP who spend a significant of time hunting sheep...... I am interested in why he chose the setup he did (here is a hint, I wouldn't put a bull barrel on anything non varmint).... Asking the OP why he chose what he did based on the thread title and everything I have heard and read about "sheep rifles" is fair ground........ I want go learn, unlike you I don't think I know it all......

If OP posted a thread that was entitled "my new dangerous game rifle" and the caliber was .30-06, he would get questioning........ I would personally like to know why someone would chose a 9 pound rifle ......

I, unlike you, who thinks he knows it all, am seeking knowledge....... And reasoning....... And will do so infinitely........ Because I want to be always opening to learning new things......

When I become a guy that harvests a trophy elk, moose or what have you and yet can't crack a smile and does nothing on a discussion site but target someone in the interest of shooting down their opinions, I will know it's time to hang it up....... What will be your queue?....
 
Superbrad said:
I did indeed...... Did you miss the part about the ideal sheep rifle?.....

I unlike you, am not willing to define a "sheep rifle" as any rifle that has been used to harvest a sheep....... I am more interested in learning from people like the OP who spend a significant of time hunting sheep...... I am interested in why he chose the setup he did (here is a hint, I wouldn't put a bull barrel on anything non varmint).... Asking the OP why he chose what he did based on the thread title and everything I have heard and read about "sheep rifles" is fair ground........ I want go learn, unlike you I don't think I know it all......

If OP posted a thread that was entitled "my new dangerous game rifle" and the caliber was .30-06, he would get questioning........ I would personally like to know why someone would chose a 9 pound rifle ......

I, unlike you, who thinks he knows it all, am seeking knowledge....... And reasoning....... And will do so infinitely........ Because I want to be always opening to learning new things......

When I become a guy that harvests a trophy elk, moose or what have you and yet can't crack a smile and does nothing on a discussion site but target someone in the interest of shooting down their opinions, I will know it's time to hang it up....... What will be your queue?....
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Sorry to quote myself ITRS, but I would truly like to learn what your components are, and why you made the choices you did....
 
I also want to know what lead to the rifle being spec'd the way it is. I'm not an accomplished sheep hunter, but I do get out there and hunt them. I'm on the quest for the lightest stuff possible. My wanting a light rifle has a lot to with general day hike hunting as well. Navigating the high ridges of the south interior of BC along the thompson and fraser rivers can be very dry in sept, oct. I'm starting to choose taking more water over more rifle.
 
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