Help me find my next gun

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Ok. So, I shot my bro-in-law's Tavor on the weekend, and have now decided that i "need" a .223/5.56 in my "collection". Thing is, I'm not a fan of the looks of the Tavor at all. So, help me find the closest thing to an AR without being restricted. I repeat.... MUST be NR. I wanna shoot this thing in the bush. Money really isn't an object. I'll save up, if I must. Ideally $3500 or under tho.

Thanks in advance boys/girls.
 
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Most of the NR bush AR type platforms are quite heavy and long. ACRs and XCR-Ls can tip 10lbs with a scope/ bipod.
The Tavor is heavy but due to the compact nature of the bullpup design, I do like it the best for bush carry.
The XCR-L in the lightweight barrel and Keymod stock would be a close second.
 
XCR-L is certainly the closest on looks to an AR. And not too shabby! The rest don't really "twirl my beanie". Also prefer as short a barrel as possible and still be NR.

If only I could take this into the bush...
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mikethebike said:
too short for me, horrible stock
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Too short, too flimsy, useless riser, can't shoot properly with it folded, difficult to clear stoppages, heavy, long and nose heavy ( the non-Keymod heavy barrel version), average reliability, average accuracy, expensive. If the Modern Verminter is out of range, seriously OP, get a Tavor!
The Keymod is better though!
 
The closest thing to NR that looks like an AR will be the Modern Varment, ACR or XCR. Last i checked, dlak was selling complete ACR rifles with 18.5" barrels for under 3500. I would say thatys your best bet. Saying that, I would recommend the Tavor. Its a battle proven design, which to me goes a long way.
 
Canadian_Zuk said:
The H&K SL8 is non restricted, cheaper than the XCR-l, can be made tacticool with G36 goodies and it's very accurate unlike the XCR and Tavor.
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+1 for the SL8. It is a fantastic rifle. Definitely the most accurate 223, 556 modern sporting semi auto rifle. I had one and it was fantastic but.... I sold mine because my back is going and the rifle is a tank. Fine for the bench or a stationary varmint hunt but if you plan on humping it through the bush or running it in an IPSC 3 gun match you might look somewhere else. After Hera Arms lower, ACR butt, bipod and 6.5x20x44 it was 13lbs.

Moe
 
Moe said:
+1 for the SL8. It is a fantastic rifle. Definitely the most accurate 223, 556 modern sporting semi auto rifle. I had one and it was fantastic but.... I sold mine because my back is going and the rifle is a tank. Fine for the bench or a stationary varmint hunt but if you plan on humping it through the bush or running it in an IPSC 3 gun match you might look somewhere else. After Hera Arms lower, ACR butt, bipod and 6.5x20x44 it was 13lbs.

Moe
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Sounds like mine but I have low mag optics. I have the Hera lower, SPHUR magwell adapter, H&K bipod, ACR stock but have a 1-6 Minox on it and yes it is a heavy gun, almost as heavy as my dressed XCR-l was lol.
 
The closest thing to an AR is going to be an XCR. With that said I would highly recommend a Swiss Arms or a NR ACR conversion if you are willing to spend in the 3-4K range - They are simply better rifles.
 
I also don't especially like the looks of the Tavor (flame suit on), and my XCR was quite heavy. I ultimately wasn't satisfied on the 5.56 front until I got my FS2000 with a NR length barrel. If you're willing to put up with the drawbacks (price, lack of parts, love-it-or-hate-it looks, no PMAGs, mags don't drop free), it's less than 30" long in NR configuration, and a joy to carry and shoot in the bush.
 
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