Pump release lever question.

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Hey all.

This is probably gonna be a total newb question here as I'm pretty new to shotguns in general.

I recently acquired a savage model 269 which as far as I can see online is almost identical to a Stevens model 27.
An old one. So I took it apart to clean it and just figured while putting it back together I'd see if I could assemble it and it still function without the pump release button. (I have small hands and find it awkward where it's located)

It assembled and cycles and dry fires like this. However my question is... it is safe to fire this way? Is there really a point to these features?

Like I said. Probably a stupid newb question. But, who better to ask then those on this forum.

Thanks guys. And no I don't mind if you call me an idiot lol
 
rembolt said:
If there is no pump release what is locking the bolt into battary .
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Technically the bolt is locked into the frame or barrel when the pump is forward. The lock is basically there to keep the gun from opening when you dont want it to. A few of the guns like the ithaca iirc also use it as a hammer catch until the gun is in battery since it doesnt have a disconnector. It is what allows you to slam fire the 37.
Would I leave it off no. Can the gun work without it technically most can unless it is part of the disconnector system but the gun is less fool proof.
 
Stray03 said:
Technically the bolt is locked into the frame or barrel when the pump is forward. The lock is basically there to keep the gun from opening when you dont want it to. A few of the guns like the ithaca iirc also use it as a hammer catch until the gun is in battery since it doesnt have a disconnector. It is what allows you to slam fire the 37.
Would I leave it off no. Can the gun work without it technically most can unless it is part of the disconnector system but the gun is less fool proof.
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Yes I agree the bolt lug/s are holding the bolt when in battery . however like stated above you can at any time pull the action rearward .
 
Thanks guys. I reinstalled the release just to be in the safe side. Cycled it up some more and it's actually not that awkward. I'll get the hang of it.

As a side note I cleaned up this old thing and got rid of all the "sticky" grease that was dripping out and she's oh so slick now! What a difference!
 
I reinstalled the release just to be in the safe side. Cycled it up some more and it's actually not that awkward. I'll get the hang of it.
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Good move! It will become second nature in no time and you will be comfortable with it. It is important!

I cleaned up this old thing and got rid of all the "sticky" grease that was dripping out and she's oh so slick now! What a difference!
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LOL Cleaning and taking apart and reassembling is one of the fun aspects of this hobby for quite a few. Allows for more quality one on one time with the firearm. :)
 
TargetGuy said:
Hey all.

This is probably gonna be a total newb question here as I'm pretty new to shotguns in general.

I recently acquired a savage model 269 which as far as I can see online is almost identical to a Stevens model 27.
An old one. So I took it apart to clean it and just figured while putting it back together I'd see if I could assemble it and it still function without the pump release button. (I have small hands and find it awkward where it's located)

It assembled and cycles and dry fires like this. However my question is... it is safe to fire this way? Is there really a point to these features?

Like I said. Probably a stupid newb question. But, who better to ask then those on this forum.

Thanks guys. And no I don't mind if you call me an idiot lol
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It sounds to me like you have no idea how a shotgun works. You don't manually press the lever after every shot. If the gun is not a raging pile of excrement, it will disengage the lock all by itself, whether through action of the hammer or recoil. That's what they're designed to do.
 
I'm surprised the manufacture designedi it with the action release all other pumps work on the same principle it does lock the bolt into battery and is a serious safety hazard with it . Maybe next time a new firearm is designed the manufactures can safe a lot of money by not using engineers and just come to this forum for technical advice .
 
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