Which $3K "pre-built" AR?

As a guy with many ARs, and have had and sold many others, I can say Daniel Defense is probably the top choice. If you are thinking a 308 AR, LMT MWS (used) cannot be matched.

Having said that, my Norinco can definitely keep up with its expensive brothers, and I treat it like garbage. It's the gun I loan out on classes and clinics. I have never had a failure. Because it's a $600 gun, you don't mind beating the crap out of it. Never missed a beat. Although I'm sure my top tier ARs can handle the same abuse, I am more hesitant to toss them around and abuse them (I mean REALLY abuse).

So really, for your budget, you could get any Daniel Defense AND a Norinco AR.
 
Just a word of warning despite looking like an AR the KAC series uses proprietary parts which can be hard to source if broken, ie the bolt only works in KAC rifles and not any AR series.
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Hard to source?

We have spare bolts in stock as well as a large number of other parts as well as two Certified KAC armorers. In the 9yrs or so of selling KAC I've never seen a broken bolt (unlike other brands).
 
At 3k get a KAC, nothing better out there.

But you'll blow your 3k just on the rifle. You can build yourself a very high quality CQB AR for 3k and that would include an Aimpoint T1/H1 and a Surefire Scout light.
 
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jmac113 said:
Ddm4v5 or mk18 with an eotech holographic, just shy of 3k well spent
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If you're dead set on buying and not building, this is pretty much your best bet. If it's an SBR you want I don't think you can beat the factory MK18 that DD offers. That being said, I would recommend strongly going with an Aimpoint over Eotech just based on battery life alone.
I don't know what most rifles go for new anymore as I just build what I want now, but I'd guess a new MK18 is going to run you 2K, plus an Aimpoint H1 (700.00) leaves you 300 for ammo, mags, or accessorizing.

If you did however want to build a rifle, PM me and I can point you in the direction of sourcing good quality parts, and for a good price too.
 
bongoz said:
This video was honestly one of the deciding factors in my KAC purchase:

20,145 rounds of ammo, Zero Cleanings. Zero Malfunctions.
And the barrel still shot 1.1" MOA at the end of the test.

Obviously none of us will probably end up in a situation where we need a rifle to preform like this but it's still pretty damn cool.
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He was also using Surefire 60 rounders in the video, which not every AR-15 likes. Very cool.
 
If i was about to buy a new ar15 I would buy:HK, Knight armament, Colt Canada, LMT, DD, Colt USA, BCM.

I personally own 2 LMT (14.5 and 10,5) and they run perfectly. I never had a problem with both of them. The only reason why I choose HK, Knight and CC before LMT is because I think that they are superior in some aspect. If I was shooting bad guys and not paper then it would probably make a difference. For us Canadians even a Lower quality AR will do the job.

But I prefer to buy the real thing. I bought aimpoint optics and surefire lights to go on my AR's so..... Even if I don't need higher end gear, I'm that kind of guy.
 
Dietz said:
^^ Any quality AR will do that. Google "Filthy 14".

And that test is just plain stupid, he's dumping sand on a completely sealed gun (the dust cover is closed), AND he's breathing in all that good silica dust.


Want a real test? https://www.full30.com/search/mud

https://www.full30.com/video/30a1f036a5143172f5da39cf50f46360
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Any AR can not do what the SR-15 did and the "Filthy 14" test proves it. The Filthy 14 broke multiple parts and even required cleaning to continue functioning while still well under the 20,000 round mark. The SR-15 required none of that and ran without a single malfunction.


I agree the sand test was pointless.
 
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