GunsNotPuns
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It had nothing to do with procrastination and everything to do with being meh about the rifles.
T2 Garand - Part 1
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It had nothing to do with procrastination and everything to do with being meh about the rifles.
Wow! All sold out in one day. With 200 of them, I thought I would have a couple of weeks to persuade myself to get one.
I've said it before and I'll say it again to those that just can't stop procrastinating. You snooze you lose.
bigjohndatsun
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What was the going price on these cheaper ammo shooters?
I'll sit on my 2 Italian M1's that cost $300 each a while longer...30'06 and 308 cost me the same to load, and these guns do wear/break parts if you do high volume shooting. Hopefully people realize the T2 are collectable firearms and don't go shooting the #### out of them.... expensive paperweights lol
Coyote Ugly
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Nice to see Cool Garand rifles for sale again.
Looking back 20 years to 1996, I picked up all of these for $1600:
A complete M1D Garand Sniper with M1D Scope, Hart Flash hider, Cheek Piece, Sling, etc;
An M1 Winchester Garand,
and a German K43 rifle with ZF4 scope and mount, all of which I still have.
The dollar is not worth much today as it only buys one Garand for $1600.
I miss the good old days! LOL
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No. Italian military Tipo 2 Garands were built on Italian military Garand receivers made by Beretta and Breda as well as US made Springfield Armory receivers. The Danish surplus Beretta and Breda Garand receivers (marked "FKF" with the Danish crown) were not originally used to build these rifles.
Obviously any standard Garand receiver could be used to build a Tipo 2 pattern rifle by using the unique Italian Tipo 2 parts(shortened barrel, op rod, stock and rear handguard), but this wouldn't be appropriate for an original Italian made Tipo 2 rifle. Besides, the Tipo 2 rifles were built up in the late 1960s well before the Danish military released any of their Garands as surplus.
I note that the Marstar/Hauck marked rifles are stamped .308 Win, rather than 7.62. It would be interesting to hear some feedback on what the headspace specs are.
BREDA Italian Tipo-2 Garand
Good Day,
I'm not certain of the total number converted and the percentage of US or Italian receivers modified by the Italian military, but I have owned three examples of BREDA receivers that were initially assembled in 30.06 rifles and later rebuilt and converted into 7.62 Tipo 2 variants in 7.62x51. Under strong light, you can see the "CAL .30 M1" markings as shadows where the milling occurred. When converted, this caliber marking (as it indicated a rifle in 30.06) was milled off and the 7.62-2 engraved on the shelf behind the rear sight to act as caliber identification. I'm looking forward to see how the MARSTAR receivers are marked.
For those that are further interested in the Italian Garand history, take a look at the little known book by Ruggero Pettinelli "Il Garand in Italia 1951-1996" (available on Amazon). Its an extensive look at the Italian Garand series including the Tipo-2 rifles.
Regards,
Michael
Good Day,
I'm not certain of the total number converted and the percentage of US or Italian receivers modified by the Italian military, but I have owned three examples of BREDA receivers that were initially assembled in 30.06 rifles and later rebuilt and converted into 7.62 Tipo 2 variants in 7.62x51. Under strong light, you can see the "CAL .30 M1" markings as shadows where the milling occurred. When converted, this caliber marking (as it indicated a rifle in 30.06) was milled off and the 7.62-2 engraved on the shelf behind the rear sight to act as caliber identification. I'm looking forward to see how the MARSTAR receivers are marked.
For those that are further interested in the Italian Garand history, take a look at the little known book by Ruggero Pettinelli "Il Garand in Italia 1951-1996" (available on Amazon). Its an extensive look at the Italian Garand series including the Tipo-2 rifles.
Regards,
Michael
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johnny the boy
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Thanx for the info. Got a mismatched version on the way. A 308 Garand has been on the list for a long time.
So then really they are not T2 M1's as they were not assembled in Terni....
Funny Marstar makes no mention of that lol
Surplus Dane receivers which are not correct, assembled by a small German gunsmith shop, I wonder how much of these guns really are original T2 parts and not just made up by the smith?
Not the first time they took some liberties with their descriptions. I still remember the very first VZ58's they brought in described as "NEW". Actually they used the word "NEW" at least 4-5 times in the description. What I got was a well "USED" VZ58 with pitted bore and everything, and when confronted they used semantics and stated they meant "newly assembled" not like brand new...duh.
$1700 eh.....ouch.
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