GF needs a grouse gun

LarryG said:
x2. they are very nice. however, for any lightweight 20 gauge put a very good recoil pad on it.
It kicks almost the same as a lightweight 12 gauge, which for me is too much with a mediocre recoil pad (esp. with slugs).

foxer did a rave review on this gun on youtube.

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I've got one of those 20g shotguns.I've had a few hundred new shooters of all sizes shoot it with target loads. For the most part, they think it's pretty snappy, but controllable. If someone shoots a few boxes of shells from it, they will be fine. I would use it as a "truck" grouse gun for sluicing grouse as opportunity presents. It's actually perfect for that.
 
Lucas269 said:
I have an old sacage .22lr/.410 over under for grouse. They make new ones that are smaller. This is just about the perfect grouse gun where im at because most shots are ground shots in thick bush. Ive used .410 on a lot of grouse. Many past 20 yards but i agree it's kind of pushing it when you reach out there. The problem isnt the killing power but the spread and likelyhood of getting pellets where you want them. I prefer using the .22 anyway. I know you said she would prefer a repeater but the nature of that gun being kind of weird and different might make her like it. A small double barrel would be a good optoon for keeping weight down too. You can get a longer barrel with a shorter over all length and less weight than a pump or semi auto because it doesnt have the feeding mechanism. You also have the added advantage over a pump of a faster follow up shot. The only downside is some of the cheap doubles can be really spotty quality wise compared to a pump of equal price.
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I have one of these older models too and that's my goto for partridge. Absolutely love this gun!
 
Shotgunning is about fit and feel. The only way to win is to man up take her to every gun shop and let her decide what she likes then buy it. Even if you have to finance it you will come out ahead.
A 410 for ground targets is not a disadvantage. If shooting on the wing the longer shot string an fellow pellets make it more difficult.
I use 12" 410 tubes in my 12 ga guns for grouse but honestly the last 2 dozen grouse I've shot have been with my 25/06 45/70 and 458 wm
Best of luck
 
LarryG said:
x2. they are very nice. however, for any lightweight 20 gauge put a very good recoil pad on it.
It kicks almost the same as a lightweight 12 gauge, which for me is too much with a mediocre recoil pad (esp. with slugs).

foxer did a rave review on this gun on youtube.

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The fact that the shooting form is so bad in the video, greatly accentuates the felt recoil. If the people shooting the gun were shown how to stand while shooting a shotgun, it would be much more pleasant for them to shoot it.
 
I would recommend a youth model 20ga pump. This would work well base don her stated small size / stature. Load one shot at a time until she's comfortable wing shooting.
 
410 has limitations which have already been discussed but it sure fits the bill for recoil. 5'2" is petite she has to pack it around all day. No the 410 is not the ideal grouse gun for wing shooting but that is all I had (Savage 22/410) for many years and it brought down a lot of grouse. I would start out with the 410 and go from there.
 
Picked her up a 20gauge pump from Corwin. Just under 6lbs and I can cut the stock to give her good LOP, maybe shave a few ounces.

She has a Rossi 92 I bought for her and they are about the same dimensions so it should work.

Thanks everyone
 
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